The League of Women Voters, Common Cause and clean government groups across Wisconsin opposed the draconian voter ID law developed by the American Legislative Exchange Council and Scott Walker's cronies in the state Legislature.

A Dane County Circuit Court judge has determined that the law violated basic constitutional premises. And the courts have stayed its implementation.

Yet Gov. Walker now says: “I’ve always thought in this state, close elections, presidential elections, it means you probably have to win with at least 53 percent of the vote to account for fraud. One or two points, potentially. ... That’s enough to change the outcome of the election. ... Absolutely. I mean there’s no question why they went to court and fought (to undo) voter ID.”

The governor's statement is false on its face.

Wisconsin has historically had a reputation for clean elections. When national Republicans -- at the behest of Karl Rove -- tried to gin up fears about voter fraud in 2004, 2006 and 2008, they turned up so little fraud that the efforts drew laughs from serious observers of the process.

In 2010, when the governor and his allies won key elections, the Republicans stopped complaining.

Now, however, the governor suggests that voter fraud is a huge problem -- apparently trying to foster the impression that if he loses in a close election it might be because of fraud.

That's absurd.

But his most absurd claim is that the good-government groups that opposed the 2011 voter ID law -- and that have spearheaded legislative and legal challenges to it -- did so in order to perpetuate voter fraud.

That's simply untrue.

And the governor knows it.

John Nichols is associate editor of The Capital Times. jnichols@madison.com

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Voters Matter First
Voters Matter First

What a surprise! Some morons think identifying yourself to insure ONE VOTE PER PERSON is not fair! Yes, morons. Whining that voter fraud isn't a significant problem so we don't need a rule" is idiotic. Why does it have to be a problem at all? Liberals want to keep the door open to buying votes from people who don't care or follow elections. Round em up, pay them something, bus them to the polls & instruct them how to vote. Identifying yourself & understanding what voting means in this free country is a responsibility and is necessary to avoid allowing unscrupulous election thieves to play their progressive govt takeover game. Vote early and often!

MTBlitz
MTBlitz

1. employees of then milwaukee county exec walker campaigning on the taxpayers time.

2. voter id laws to combat voter fraud, thats almost non existant. and would take away a large # of democrats votes.

3. backroom voter redisticting maps, done under the cover of lawer client privlidge to block public input. the judge hearing the case commenting on republicans claim that the maps were draw in a non partisan way, called it laughable.

4. republican county clerks finding extra non counted votes after the fact. stored on her personal computer.

5. taking away collective bargaining rights. when asked before a panel in washington. how much money did it save your state. gov walker? he had to answer "none" , because breaking unions takes away some of democrats, power to organize & support demoratic candidates. but saved the state nothing. asking unions to pay more for thier pension & heathcare. and stripping collective bargaining rights are two differant things. even though republicans try to lump them together to try to hide the facts, and villianize unions.

all in all, sounds like an act of desperation.

Norwood44
Norwood44

I support voter ID. It makes all the sense in the world. Nothing is more sacred than a legitimate vote. As for slander, Mr. Nichols and the capital times know all about it.

spooky tooth
spooky tooth

ALEC can spin this anyway they want, but it will always be a Voter Suppression Bill.

A better bill would be one that requires all citizens to vote.

Dave Zweifel reports today on the recent Farleigh Dickenson study, even people that don't watch the news, know more of what's happening than a Fox viewer. Makes you wonder why that's the only network Scott Walker does interviews with.

Saltyned
Saltyned

Poor little Scotty can't cheat by voter supression, I would bet the next cheat is the electronic voting machines! Hiel Walker!

TheJudoon
TheJudoon

Love the verbs this newspaper uses in it's headlines --

Walker Slams
Walker Attacks
Walker X,Y,Z

"Walker Regurgitates the Same Old Lies" should be tomorrow's headline.

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ZuRG
ZuRG

Libel*

TheJudoon
TheJudoon

If Scotty is so sure there's massive voter fraud without any proof (actually there is proof to the contrary), then he's got to admit that he was elected in 2010 by people voting fraudulently. Come on -- step up to the plate and admit it.
Just one more reason he should go - it was fraud from the beginning.

aequalitas
aequalitas

How embarrassing for Scott Walker. Up until this story came out Scott hasn't had even the slightest hint of corruption or wrongdoing associated with his governorship of the state, or his prior work as Milwaukee County supervisor.

How cruel of John Nichols to smear Scott Walker without even giving Scott Walker a chance to turn down an interview, or just not reply at all.

Would John Nichols like it if HE was governor and insensitive journalists wrote one unflattering story after another about HIM? Please, just let the people (and $25,000,000 dollars in donations to Scott Walker) decide this race. Stop confusing us with anything other than officially sanctioned and approved pro-Walker propaganda, Mr. Nichols. Otherwise, no seat at the next Scott Walker $5,000 a plate fund raiser dinner for YOU!

busybee
busybee

Fear Not, Oh Great and Mighty, gop Rock Star Scooter,

I have already had the pleasure of voting AGAINST you in person with absentee ballot at my City Hall with my trusty City Clerk. -- Signed, Sealed and Delivered.

Sheesh did it FEEL GOOD -- How was it for you Scooter ?

My City Clerk assures me that everything is on the "Up n' Up" and my son will vote as soon as he gets back.

Reporting No Voter Fraud here in my little corner of Merry Ol' FitzWalkerKoch iStan -- UNLESS you, Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus and billionaire Diane Hendricks FIDDLE with the frigging numbers.

taylor88
taylor88

The irony of John Nichols, chief slanderer at the CT complaining about someone else slandering is beautifully ironic.

Roundtable
Roundtable

Just more divisive ideas from the tea party and ALEC. Whatever happened to the complaint to the IRS on their 501?

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Roy Ellefson
Roy Ellefson

srwspoon pretends to be a moderate looking for common ground but he is no more moderate than libsrlooney

59er
59er

People please stop fighting. The Libs/Socialists do not want voter id because it will keep the Occupy Madison people from voting for Barrett and Obama. This will also stop some of the deceased in the state from also casting ballots for Barrett and Obama, a trick that was learned by the 14 cowards while hiding in Chicago and receiving their orders from the union bosses. Why are you trying to eliminate those two voter demographics from the Democratic Party? God you Republicians are bullies!!!!


dond
dond

Hmm....
The GOP in their old fashioned ways OUTSOURCED THE JOB of collect signatures to a corporation named, Kennedy Enterprises. The Republican Party of Wisconsin paid this corporation nearly $100,000 to circulate recall petitions.

Not only are there fraudulent names, but actual people who did sign the petition were told it was a recall for Governor Scott Walker.

“Affidavit of voter in Senate District 30 attesting that circulator Richard Madrill claimed the petitions were to recall Republican Gov. Scott Walker.”

“Another voter has filed an affidavit attesting that circulator John Prijic claimed the petitions were for work to be done on a local park.”

Affidavit of voter in Senate District 30 attesting that circulator Annette Lord claimed the petitions were to recall Republican Senator Cowles, when in fact it was to recall a Democrat.

There is more mistakes made by the ballots machines in tallying votes than the "voter ID fraud"


srwspoon
srwspoon

I say we use paper ballots forever!!

Dazshand
Dazshand

How will Voter ID keep Occupy Madison people from voting for Barrett/Obama? What proof do you have of the 14 Democrats having deceased votes cast in their favor? I'm sure many of us would like answers.

srwspoon
srwspoon

Was that all just a pile of sarcasm or are you being serious?

sandy_a
sandy_a

So John,

"National Republicans tried to gin up fraud in 2004, 2006, and 2008... In 2010, they stopped complaining..."

You think that maybe the reason that they stopped complianing is that they finally were able to do something about it.

The position is consistent: before they were in power, they wanted to combat voter fraud with voter id. (Despite dmark's assertion about it being to stay in power) Now that they are in power, they are actually doing something about it.

Everyone who meets the eligibility requirements to vote, should vote. Period. However, I happen to agree with the sentitment that a certain percentage of the vote is cast by ineligible folks. Without voter id, we have extremly few ways to verify that.

Like Walker, I can see no real purpose to block Voter ID laws other than to enable ineligible votes. Organizations such as the League of Women Voters and Common Cause would better serve those they claim will be disenfranchised by helping the few who don't already have acceptable ID's to obtain them.

dmark
dmark

The Simpering Deserter had his DOJ investigate a number of states for voter fraud in his first years in office. Every one of the DOJ lawyers came back and said it didn't exist. He ended up firing six who refused to file cases that were fraudulent in their own right.

I ain't about voter fraud and everyone who says it is, IS A LIAR.

ZuRG
ZuRG

However, I happen to agree with the sentitment that a certain percentage of the vote is cast by ineligible folks. Without voter id, we have extremly few ways to verify that.

*****

Showing an ID to confirm that John Smith is only casting John Smith's vote won't address the problem you're describing. You're touting a solution for identity theft in response to a (hypothetical) problem with registration. If someone is ineligible to vote, they shouldn't be able to register at all.

Middle
Middle

If we had voter ID it would have been easier to go back and check all those votes many of you continue to claim never existed That should be the case for both sides. Voting is a whole lot more important to me than having to provide ID for some othe other things mentioned. One illegal vote could render mine vote insignificant. The League of Women voters should be concerned about that. Quality is just as important as quantity.

Dazshand
Dazshand

I'm not sure how Voter ID would make it any easier to verify any votes. But to your other point about one illegal vote rendering yours less significant, you could also take the other side. If one vote is not allowed due to not having a piece of plastic with your name on it then how much of a Right is voting anymore? Everyones rights are diminished when you qualify those rights with regulations.

dmark
dmark

One more time from the top.

It ain't about voter fraud.
It ain't got nothing to do with cashing checks
It ain't got nothing to to with buying beer or cigarettes

It all about restricting voting so that the people in power can stay in power.

B777
B777

If you opppose voter ID, it is only because you want to keep illegals, dead people, illegal dead people, etc., voting for your candidates. Anything other reason....

YOU
ARE
LYING.

equate
equate

I for one am so tired of coming on hear to read the demeaning and extremely rude comments from this spoon person. I would highly suggest, no make it beg you to go and get a real job so we can read this with out you filth. Or if you are at work, get back to work and shut up. I know, you'll come back with all sorts of insults, but I don't really care. SHUT UP !

srwspoon
srwspoon

I challenge you; stand up for what you believe to be true and provide me with the "demeaning and extremely rude comments" that I made in this thread.

That is the ONLY comment you have made using the "equate" account, did you just now create that account for the sole purpose of coming on here to anonymously attack me?

dmark
dmark

18 suspected cases in the last Pres election. 11 were felons voting, 6 of whom were told they were eligible. The others were people voting in two districts but not necessarily voting for the same candidate twice.

But this isn't about fraud anyway, is it?

srwspoon
srwspoon

equate,
Not willing to support your claims of "demeaning and extremely rude comments" in this thread, eh?

equate
equate

I don't have to support anything. Your big mouth says it all. I come on here to read comments and have for months and you are always the one who tries to trash people. I don't need to make up new identities. I have just had it with you. Get a real life.

srwspoon
srwspoon

Maybe you should go back to just reading because your idea of commenting is making yourself out to be a hypocrite.

Do you actually have an opinion about this article or are you just out to trash and make unsupported claims about others?

srwspoon
srwspoon

Could it be that been John Nichols that created this new account "equate" to come on here for the sole purpose of smearing in such an adult way.

srwspoon
srwspoon

Interesting possibilities; equate = libsrlooney = John Nichols; if that were actually true it sure would certainly explain some things.

Some things in life just make you wanna say hmmmm.....

B777
B777

"extremely rude comments from this spoon person. "

Ya gotta be kiddin me. You don't come here much do ya.

srwspoon
srwspoon

Your style of rhetoric rings the same bells as libsrlooney.

Hmmm.......

srwspoon
srwspoon

Could it be that been John Nichols that created this new account "equate" to come on here for the sole purpose of smearing in such an adult way.

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Dazshand
Dazshand

so commenting on a quote by walker is slander? Please explain.

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rightiehack
rightiehack

You should submit this as a letter to the editor...could not do better myself.

racedog48
racedog48

If there i sno fraud. Then why is the Milw. DA looking into this

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/149145165.html

ZuRG
ZuRG

-An investigation is not the same as a conviction.
-Nobody said there was exactly zero fraud, just that a few dozen cases is not worth obstructing hundreds of thousands of voters
-These three guys are a far cry from the 40K votes needed to swing a typical election turnout by 2 points.

rdjohnson
rdjohnson

Three people, oh yeah and it is still not settled if it even is voter fraud. This BS law has no merit there were a handful of questionable votes in 2008. I believe only a couple where charged. So because of that hand full we the tax payers have to foot the bill for 10s of millions of dollars. This is all about keeping citizens from voting and it does target students, minorities and seniors. There is no justification at all for that idiot waste our money bill.

joe
joe

Gee, I guess if Nichols says something, we should just blindly follow him off the cliff. Typical CT, all emotion and speculation, but no facts.

I am sure the GAB does not investigate and confirm every vote made. Do they check with other states to make sure the absentee voters (college students) are not voting in their home district as well? Are they verifying that the college students file taxes in WI and not in their home state when they file for an absentee ballot? I think not. If Nichols actually brought some facts or something to the table instead of partisan whining, there could be a real discussion.

Dazshand
Dazshand

so your presentation of "facts" is "I think not". But somehow your opinion isn't partisan whining? John factually quoted Walker, where's your facts?

bootleg711
bootleg711

They don't, your municipal clerk does.

Dazshand
Dazshand

Thanks John for again pointing out how Walker distrusts his own constituents. As a legal voter against voter ID I'm offended my Governor thinks I support Voter fraud. Every citizen has the Right to vote and should be encouraged to do so.

srwspoon
srwspoon

Dazshand said, "As a legal voter against voter ID I'm offended my Governor thinks I support Voter fraud."

I say...

As a legal voter in favor of voter ID I'm offended my those that think I support voter suppression.

Dazshand
Dazshand

in neither my comments or this article was voter suppression mentioned.

srwspoon
srwspoon

You voiced your opinion, so did I.

srwspoon
srwspoon

Typo fix...

As a legal voter in favor of voter ID I'm offended by those that think I support voter suppression.

hughjazzsoul
hughjazzsoul

Are you aginst showing an id to get on a plane? Are you against showing an id to enter a tavern or buy beer?

Are you saying being able to buy beer or board an airplane is more important than voting?

Dazshand
Dazshand

I'm not saying any of those things. I'm saying we have a constitutional right to vote and I'm against having to show an ID to exercise those rights, And being against Voter ID does not mean that I am in favor of or approve of voter fraud. Nothing to do with drinking/smoking/flying/etc...

hughjazzsoul
hughjazzsoul

If an id was free from the government for all verifiable citizens would you still be against it?
Who are you afraid will not be able to vite?

Dazshand
Dazshand

I would be against it even if they printed ID's outside the polling station. Voter ID is just another government regulation that accomplishes very little. If a person is willing to risk a felony charge to vote fraudulantly, don't you think they will risk a lesser charge to obtain a false ID? And the majority of the issues cited in favor of Voter ID will not be resolved with Voter ID.

ObbieZ
ObbieZ

RE: "trying to foster the impression that if he loses in a close election it might be because of fraud"

No, if Walker WINS it will be because of fraud... for example, a bag of ballots mysteriously "found" in Waukesha County.

srwspoon
srwspoon

Are you implying that the clerk in Waukesha County entered fraudulent votes into the count?

That was NOT a rhetorical question, I expect an answer!

It would have actually been fraud if the bags of legal votes in Waukesha County had NOT been entered into the count!!

POLITICAL HACK : is a negative term ascribed to a person who is part of the political apparatus and whose intentions are more aligned with victory than personal conviction.

ObbieZ
ObbieZ

The bag's seal was broken. The bag was probably stuffed with illegal ballots. Otherwise, why break the seal?

srwspoon
srwspoon

You are basing your "if Walker WINS it will be because of fraud" comment on "probably"?????

Are you so ignorant not to know that a recount of all those ballots was done and cross referenced with the amount of actual voters that showed up at the polls?

Probably, REALLY?!?!?

WOW, you are WAY out there in la, la land!

fedup363
fedup363

The regressives are definitely out there painting the blogosphere red. Do you guys have a day job? Or are you paid by the Teabaggers to tear up the blogosphere?

epic
epic

I don't know about the others, but I am employed by the David H. Koch Foundation. Pay is good and life is sweet. By the way, do you have a day job or are you painting the blogosphere from your state office or faculty lounge computer?

srwspoon
srwspoon

Hmmm...

Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me!!!!

Do you have a day job? Or are you paid by the Liberals to tear up the blogosphere?

I am so freaking tired of all this blatant BS hypocrisy!

equate
equate

then why don't you just shut up already??

srwspoon
srwspoon

equate said, "then why don't you just shut up already??"

Oooooo...... Nice exhibition of childish debate.

I'll repeat what I said above; equate's style of rhetoric rings the same bells as libsrlooney.

wisconsineye
wisconsineye

Johnny- It has always been a requirement to register to vote. It has always been a requirement to produce proper ID to register. So, what is so draconian now....than in the last 50 years?

ZuRG
ZuRG

There are many types of documentation (about a dozen) that allow you to register. This ID must be presented AT THE BALLOT even if you already registered. The law also included limitations that serve no apparent purpose but to raise obstacles (for example, college IDs are okay if they have expiration dates. Except not a single college in the entire state has expiration dates on their IDs).

sandy_a
sandy_a

If you can produce the documentation to register, how can it be draconian to present it to vote?

Per your example:

I can see the intent on requiring a non-expired college ID as trying to ensure that the student is still a resident. (It DOES have an 'apparent' purpose.)

Per the GAB, you can register with a student id: "A university, college or technical institute identification card (must include photo), ONLY if the bearer provides a fee receipt dated within the last nine months or the institution provides a certified housing list to the municipal clerk"

Maybe they should have allowed the fee receipt, or certified housing list that would have to be manually checked every vote.

Somehow, I think the noise about 'disenfranchisment' would still be there anyway.

ZuRG
ZuRG

You don't have the same flexibility at the ballot as you do with registration.

To register, you can use:
Proof of Residence
The following constitute acceptable Proof-of-Residence if the document contains your current name and address and is valid on Election Day (unless otherwise indicated):

1.A current and valid Wisconsin driver license.
2.A current and valid Wisconsin identification card.
3.Any other official identification card or license issued by a Wisconsin governmental body or unit.
4.Any identification card issued by an employer in the normal course of business and bearing a photo of the card holder, but not including a business card.
5.A real estate tax bill or receipt for the current year or the year preceding the date of the election.
6.A residential lease which is effective for a period that includes election day (NOT for first-time voters registering by mail).
7.A university, college or technical institute identification card (must include photo), ONLY if the bearer provides a fee receipt dated within the last nine months or the institution provides a certified housing list to the municipal clerk.
8.A gas, electric or telephone service statement (utility bill) for the period commencing not earlier than 90 days before election day.
9.Bank statement.
10.Paycheck.
11.A check or other document issued by a unit of government.
http://gab.wi.gov/elections-voting/voters/registration-voting

I'm eligible for eight of these eleven. I could (and did a few weeks ago) satisfy them in 10-15 minutes by digging in my wallet, filing cabinet, or just printing from the web.

To vote, you can only use the items pictured here: http://gab.wi.gov/sites/default/files/memo/20/acceptable_ids_pdf_pdf_19119.pdf

If I didn't already have one of these, I'd need to take a half-day to hit the DMV as BEST-CASE scenario.

Slight difference.

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hughjazzsoul
hughjazzsoul

Great post!

epic
epic

"The League of Women Voters, Common Cause and clean government groups across Wisconsin opposed the draconian voter ID law...."

"Draconian"? You take your state ID out of your wallet or purse and show it to an election official. How difficult is life for people who can't manage to acquire and possess a valid ID? How do these folks drive vehicles, apply for bank or brokerage accounts, apply for welfare benefits, or board airplanes? John, my boy, your world view is hopelessly skewed if you believe having to show an ID card is draconian. Of course, hyperbole is your stock in trade.

ZuRG
ZuRG

Part of the problem is you can't imagine anyone unlike yourself. The people being edged out DON'T drive vehicles, have bank accounts, and/or board airplanes. You ever wonder why check-cashing places need to exist?

If you don't drive EVER because elderly, disabled, or broke, how much trouble would you go through to maintain a driver's license?

dond
dond

Hmm.... DFCP are recall signatures the same are Voter ID fraud?
Wisconsin people should be more worried about the ballot machine that are being used than the GOP trying to " gin up fears about voter fraud "

Paper Ballot Op-Scan Systems in FL, WI, NY, OH Confirmed to Overheat, Mistally 70% of Votes.
Election Systems & Software, Inc. (ES&S), the largest e-voting machine company in the U.S. and the maker of the paper ballot op-scan tally systems in question, have confirmed that their systems may overheat when used over several hours (for example, during an election!), and that they then may mistally and/or incorrectly discard anywhere from 30% to 70% of votes scanned by the machines.

That ES&S suggests the problem is related to a system "not cleaned correctly," seems to strain credulity. New York was the last state in the union to "upgrade" to electronic voting systems in 2010 in response to the federal Help America Vote Act (HAVA) of 2002. They had just started using their new op-scan systems for the first time in 2010, when they failed.

Previously-known ES&S DS200 Failures

The massive failure is not the only one to affect the company's DS200 paper ballot optical-scanners, even though the systems are currently set for use this November (and on June 5th in Wisconsin's recall elections), by more than 12 million registered voters, according to VerifiedVoting.org's database.

Over 4 million registered voters in FL, more than 6.5 million in NY, over 1 million in OH, and voters in more than 50 WI municipalities (Verified Voting's database does not include registered voter numbers for WI) are set to have their votes tallied --- accurately or otherwise --- by the failed ES&S DS200 this year.

fedup363
fedup363

I second Waldo -- Barrett on June 5. We don't need 2 more years of this un-doing.

libsrlooney
libsrlooney

Undoing socialist laws is fine with me.

fedup363
fedup363

You really have a fixation on this Socialist thing. There's nothing socialist about public schooling, funding libraries an building roads.

ZuRG
ZuRG


so·cial·ism
   [soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Show IPA

noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

*****

Put the boogeyman away. If there are any for-real socialists in this country, they're ignored.

Dode
Dode

Little Johnny is the king of lies, innuendo and slander. His articles:

Did Walker play politics with job news?: No.
Scott Fitzgerald forgets that women can vote: False
Wisconsin turns against Scott Walker: No way, Johnny

Maybe if Johnny learned to read he could have read the reports of voter fraud in the last election. Shameful. Saul Alinsky would be proud of you, Johnny.

libsrlooney
libsrlooney

Did you know Barrett leveled a wheel tax in Milwaukee? It affects both the poor and rich. Good job Barrett!

fedup363
fedup363

I'd rather pay a wheel tax to maintain roads than have my hard earned $$ go into corporate coffers. Walker's corporate giveaways are taking from the poor and giving to the rich. And that has got to stop.

nolie
nolie

No money of yours goes into "corporate coffers" unless you decide to spend it there.

Tax credits allow corporations to keep more of THEIR profits -they don't take anything from you or the poor. Your thinking that all money belongs to the state and it shall determine who gets what is exactly the problem with the Dem party and all its losers and takers.

Surgeonofdemise
Surgeonofdemise

Right. Your corporate heroes are recognized as individual citizens. Now though they won't have to pay any income tax. Who's gonna pick up the bill for the lost revenue?
The average joe. Just like it always comes down to.

dond
dond

State budget taxes poor, gives to the rich

Republicans have created so many corporate tax breaks in this budget that the Legislative Fiscal Bureau pegs the 10-year cost in reduced revenue to the state at $2.3 billion.

Republicans use credit card spending to push $338 million dollars in state debt off into the future, costing us an additional $89.9 million in interest.

After giving tax breaks to the rich and corporations, Republicans take away programs that help the middle class with their changes to the Homestead Tax Credit and the Earned Income Tax Credit

In the 2015-2017 biennium, Republicans will cost the state around $501.7 million in lost revenue because of their giveaways to corporations and the rich.

So you could say that the Wisconsin taxpayer's money goes into "corporate coffers"

libsrlooney
libsrlooney

Barretts wheel tax takes from the poor. You need wisdom.

dond
dond

2008 It would be a vehicle registration fee, designed to help cover the cost of road repairs. Mayor Tom Barrett vetoed the proposal this summer. But aldermen are expected to override his veto Tuesday. Ann-Elise Henzl reports.

Barrett..."After I vetoed it I had a gentleman come up to me who said that he was in favor of the wheel tax, and that he was an absentee landlord, that he lived outside of the city but he owns property within the city. And he said he liked the tax because it allowed him to have his taxes in essence lowered and his tenants have their taxes increased. And I don't think we should be doing something to benefit absentee landlords," Barrett says.

Barrett also dislikes the wheel tax because he says it would make Milwaukee a "tax island." And, he says the proposal wouldn't actually result in more money for road repairs, it would simply shift the source of funding. Despite his concerns, the mayor thinks he'll lose the battle with the council, and the tax will likely take effect later this year.

libsrlooney
libsrlooney

The socialists block a mine in Wisconsin and they talk of jobs! That's rich!

srwspoon
srwspoon

Is everyone that disagrees with your opinion instantly labeled a Socialist?

Your blanket demonizing of those you disagree with is detrimental to your cause, unless your cause is simply to stir up hate and incite arguments.

aequalitas
aequalitas

Why are you talking to yourself?

Roy Ellefson
Roy Ellefson

the mine was blocked by a Republican...you didn't need any other votes.

nolie
nolie

More trash and tripe from the bozo "associate" editor of the failed weekly insert.

Really, who objects to voter ID? People who have an interest in vote fraud continuing to go undetected because no one is looking for it, and there is no way to prove it.

Pull all the cops off the interstate -see no tickets issued, and claim that no speeding is taking place -that's the same thought process that drives the vote fraudsters to whine and winge about voter ID.

And as is typical of the hypocritical regressive socialists, throw the race card when all else fails. Minorities should see exactly what the white liberal elite think of them when they claim that minorities are too lazy, stupid or "disadvantaged" to be able to obtain a free ID.

joe
joe

Good points. The biggest disadvantage to minorities are Democrats who feel they are not as capable as themselves.

ZuRG
ZuRG

There are only a few dozen cases of voter fraud every year. The proposed solution would obstruct hundreds of thousands of otherwise eligible voters from voting. Cost/benefit fails the smell test.

taylor88
taylor88

I agree to an extent with your point. I think that voter id only prevents a very small portion of the election fraud that exists. Most of what goes on falls more under electioneering, absentee ballot fraud stuff, things that presenting an id wouldn't address. At the same time, I think the complaint's about suppression are insanely over exaggerated. So I do think voter id to some degree is a solution in search of a problem. Although I do have one nagging question. There have been several liberal groups that have knowingly submitted fraudulent voter registration papers, with thousands of bogus names, Houston Votes comes to mind, along with ACORN and others. Why submit fraudulent registration lists, if you have no intent on matching votes to those fraudulent names? There has to be a purpose behind it, otherwise why invest the time? I don't think that the fraud is enough to change the outcomes of most elections, but I do think that it could sway very close elections, most often on the smaller local level where there are only a few thousand votes cast.

webmasterbigbrother
webmasterbigbrother

a new day, another soros group getting space here.

does soros pay TCT for every mention these groups receive?

wikileaks seemed to find allegations of voter fraud....

acorn much?

everclear
everclear

Your Sores comments are getting a little old, in light of the fact that your Governor john doe spends most of his time out of state picking up checks and making promises to those that want to destroy the middle class in this country. So they can have third world labor wages.

libsrlooney
libsrlooney

Don't look now but the sky is falling too. Oops, you and Soros looked!

hughjazzsoul
hughjazzsoul

So how do you maintain middle class wages neverclear?
By having unions set price? Having the government do it?
The world is a competitive place. Your party promotes mediocrity and entitlement.
Those are not qualities of those that need to compete.

Roy Ellefson
Roy Ellefson

your party dominates in the areas of the country that receive the most in government entitlement and the most mediocre schools. Those are not qualities we should be emulating.

libsrlooney
libsrlooney

Vote Scott Walker! Your anti-socialist candidate! Your man that gets things done!

WaldoPepper
WaldoPepper

You really are looney aren't you? Gets things UN-DONE!

Un-did 50 years of labor laws

Un-did tax breaks for the working poor

Un-did Womans rights in a job

Un-did Womans health care at planned parenthood

Un-did 100s of years of good politics in Wisconsin

Un-did Medical assistance for the poor and poor with children

Un-did Sex education that was actually working in our schools

Un-did the publics respect for public employees

Un-did the trust most of use to have in our government

There are more and will be many more UN-DIDs if Walker stays in office.
VOTE BARRETT ON JUNE 5

libsrlooney
libsrlooney

Duh! I think not! You're lies indicate your one of the socialists I was talking about. I hope your not a teacher.

dond
dond

Lies...

Gov. Scott Walker says $247,000-per-job CAPCO program was approved by former Gov. Jim Doyle
The legislation creating the program was introduced in 1997 and passed and signed into law the following year -- not by Democrat Doyle, but by then-Gov. Tommy Thompson, And Scott Walker voted for it.

"Wisconsin is broke," and "state government is $3 billion in debt."
Scott Walker on Friday, September 2nd, 2011 in a fund-raising letter

Before that statement came out.... Walker ...That budget closed a $3.6 billion shortfall from the previous fiscal year, and also, for the first time in many years, closed the state’s structural deficit. In fact, as we noted in an earlier item, Walker’s budget is projected to leave a structural surplus at the end of the two years.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker says his budget-repair bill would leave collective bargaining “fully intact”
Scott Walker on Friday, February 18th, 2011 in a radio interview

The list goes on....
And the last time I checked.... There are a few countries that are consider socialist are dong a better overall than the US.
They take care of their " workers "

libsrlooney
libsrlooney

A vote for Barrett is definately a vote for a socialist. Look at the Chief Flynn scandal growing. Barrett says nothing. A vote for Barrett is a vote for nothing.

saywhat
saywhat

I don't think so.

windy33
windy33

DFCP: lets see when signatures were being collected who brought in people from out of state to buy boze for signatures and whos side had a guy come to greenbay and steal from our peoples back packs. and who talked to the fake koch brother and talked about bringing in thugs to cause trouble for the protesters. and who lied to the public and in congress that he didn't set out to union bust when now the video proves other wise. and who is now letting the corp. in wisconsin who now pay 7.75% in state taxes will by 2015 have thier taqxes reduced to below zerro and their wives income can also be added to the no tax. and we the people will have to make up the tax revenue loss. we the people will have out taxes raised. and who has hired all the crooks that are now being charged with felonies and who is under investigation for campaign fraud. and who has a big crook working for them in waukesha to screw up the elections and bring total imbarrasment to waukesha county. IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE ON THE LEFT. IT'S YOUR GOVERNOR AND HIS BULLIES. IF YOU ARE TO SHALLOW TO SEE THIS AND DO SOME FACT CHECKING MAYBE YOU SHOULD THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND NOT OPEN MOUTH AND INSERT BOTH FEET AND YOUR ARSE AT THE SAME TIME. WALKERS TOOLS WILL GET TO YOU SOONER THEN YOU THINK

srwspoon
srwspoon

windy33,
Stop YELLING!

ABunkerSuperPatriot
ABunkerSuperPatriot

Now many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome — good government. They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.

srwspoon
srwspoon

ABunkerSuperPatriot said, " I don't want everybody to vote."

You don't want everyone to vote? So how do "YOU" choose who you want to vote and who you don't want to vote?

You and I will never, EVER agree on that point. Call me any damn thing you like, but I want every eligible voter to be involved and vote for what they believe in.

hughjazzsoul
hughjazzsoul

If you do not vote your opinion don't mean a thing.

ZuRG
ZuRG

It's an unreferenced quote from a GOP lobbyist(?).

Roy Ellefson
Roy Ellefson

the very evil late Paul Weyrich.

srwspoon
srwspoon

AGAIN, ABunkerSuperPatriot cannot use "his" own words and does not quote others properly.

Who is this ABunkerSuperPatriot person?

HeartofGonzo
HeartofGonzo

Suppress voters' rights, win the election. It's the Republican way. Always has been, always will be. It's ironic that they continue to claim to be patriotic supporters of democracy. Perhaps Walker and his ilk would finally be satisfied if we just cancelled the election and declared them the winners. More than ever, it is imperative that we exercise our right to vote, and throw these anti-labor, women-hating, out-of-state-money-loving SOBs out of office.

srwspoon
srwspoon

No blanket demonizing in that comment at all!
Geeze...

everclear
everclear

The Wis GOP is a criminal enterprise, wake up Wis!

saywhat
saywhat

Make that the national GOP.

hughjazzsoul
hughjazzsoul

So are your colluding unions. Wake up Wisconsin!

DFCP
DFCP

Gee John did you throw this one together about 5 minutes before it was due as no facts are presented. Lets see- if I remember at least 3-4% or more of the recall signatures were thrown out- pretty consistent with SW's estimated fraud number.

Dazshand
Dazshand

the facts provided were the quotes, your facts of 3-4% recall signatures being thrown out has nothing to do with election fraud. Petitions and voting are apples and oranges.

ZuRG
ZuRG

Petition signatures are thrown out for many reasons that have nothing to do with intentional, malicious misrepresentation. Reasons like a missing date, smudged handwriting, etc.