Wolf hunters can use dogs to hunt wolves during the 2013 season, a Dane County judge ruled Friday, but he threw out state rules that allow the use of wolves in the wild to train hunting dogs.

Dane County Circuit Judge Peter Anderson, who had issued an injunction before the 2012 hunting season barring the use of dogs to hunt wolves in northern Wisconsin, said in a ruling from the bench Friday that he did not have the authority to force the state Department of Natural Resources to create a rule that doesn't exist.

"They have the authority, but they did not have the obligation to do more than they did," Anderson said. "There is a real difference in my mind and in the law between an affirmative rule … versus the non-existence of a rule."

The injunction, Anderson said, will be dissolved once he issues a written ruling next week.

However, Anderson also found the state DNR rules that allow training dogs to hunt wolves to be "arbitrary and capricious."

Lawyers for the DNR and hunting groups that sought to allow the use of dogs said the effect of the rulings was not immediately clear, other than that dogs would be allowed back into the woods for the 2013 wolf hunting season.

What remains to be seen, they said, is what would become of new rules now in the works by the DNR that concern the training of dogs to hunt wolves.

Hunters killed 117 wolves, one above the quota, during the inaugural hunting season, which closed on Dec. 23. The season was to have ended on Feb. 28 or when the quota had been reached.

Carl Sinderbrand and Jodi Habush Sinykin, who represent state humane societies and groups that sued to oppose the use of dogs in wolf hunting, said they regard the rulings as a victory.

The next hunting season is months away, Habush Sinykin said, but Anderson's ruling stops training activity that could have started immediately. The groups have expressed concerns about violent confrontations between hunting dogs and wolves.

"Training would have commenced tomorrow if the judge hadn't ruled today," she said. "That's the immediate concern because the hunting season is closed."

Hunting groups that had stepped into the case were more cautious about predicting what would happen next with regard to dog training.

"Certainly the oral ruling sounded favorable to hunting but unfavorable to training," said Anna Seidman, director of litigation for Safari Club International.

Dog training is currently going through the rule-making process, DNR lawyer Thomas Andryk said. The process is long, he said, and rules won't be ready in time for the 2013 hunt, but should be in place before 2014.

He said it's possible that Anderson would revisit the training issue once the new rules have been created.

DNR Secretary Cathy Stepp said she was pleased that Anderson ended the ban on dogs for wolf hunting but disappointed with his decision to prohibit training of dogs to hunt wolves.

"We will continue to seek input from the public and from stakeholders, including tribes, as we continue to develop permanent rules on the wolf season, and the use of dogs for both training and hunting of wolves," she said.

Anderson said the use of dogs could change through legislation because of the visibility the issue has received through the court case.

"I think a lot of people in the state think it's nuts to use dogs to hunt wolves," he said. "I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. And even if I did, that's not the question."

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LouiseKane
LouiseKane

Reality - can you go somewhere else, do you know how sick, twisted and screwed up you sound. How can you hate an animal that is so like our dogs? what is wrong with you, please your comments are vicious, ignorant and useless. People please keep fighting for wolves....and for dogs by working to prevent hounding. Think about how sick this is. Dogs running loose through the woods creating havoc, terrorizing everything they come across and killing wildlife and then being attacked themselves. Its disgraceful. And people who really love their dogs would never subject their pet to this kind of hunting. Wolves have every right to defend themselves and dogs will die or wolves will be killed. Its sick. period

WI_Retiree
WI_Retiree

This is disgusting!

reality22
reality22

WI_Retiree, what is disgusting it the 1400 Domestic animals Documented (confirmed) killed and maimed by wolves since their return to the state. What about the cruelty to those animals? Leading wolf biologist Dr David Mech says only one in 6 true depredations are confirmed. We were warned up front that hunting alone would not keep wolves under control. The hunt only in Montana in 2011 showed that to be TRUE. Other forms of control are needed with wolves.... I thank the Wisconsin Legislator for giving Wisconsin residence the tools to keep these vermin under control.

The 3/4 of a million it took to clean up after these disgusting animals in 2011 should come from your POCKET/Retirement not one penny should come from the taxpayers of northern Wisconsin for they spoke pretty clearly via their County boards 19 boards passed resolutions against the wolf and any changes to the Wisconsin Wolf management plan.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

Unreality - your lies just keep repeating ad nauseum. Your wolf hating lies. You are the disgusting one who hates the natural world and wants it all farmed up for killing. You are truly disgusting.

River
River

Wolves are awesome creatures.

reality22
reality22

no they are actually disgusting.....River are you one of the Michael Vick wannabees that run down to Lamar Valley in Yellowstone to get a glimpes of a wolf eating the hind quarters out of a half dead elk?

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

You are disgusting over and over again, trolling the internet with your wolf hating obsessions. The wolf hunting facebook page shows the obscene side of sadism in man - worry about your own species and leave the natural world with all key species. Man is not one of them nor does he deserve to be.

reality22
reality22

MADLady, That's the thing and the problem I do worrry about my own species! You put wolves before people.....that's just WRONG!

Harvey
Harvey

Elect another Governor who will replace the DNR head and this will cease.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

No - this is not just a Walker policy. This is bipartisan bowing to the NRA, hunter, trapper control of our wildlife for killing that goes back 80 years of killing licenses funding.

We need major reform in the legislature to give us democracy by replacing killing licenses funding with general public funding and fair representation in policy making, the Natural Resources Board - now legislated to hunter/trapper activism and fair representation in a fair election process - not just the 5000 Neanderthals headed up by sadists Bob Welch, ALEC blood boy Suder, and killing activist George Meyers and his merry band of Wisconsin Wildlife Federation murderers.

MelissaPrettyonTop
MelissaPrettyonTop

You even have on the Wisconsin Wolf Hunting page on facebook, people bragging about using pitbills instead of hounds to illegally kill wolves.

magnum1
magnum1

I wonder how many lost and dead dogs we will find in the woods. Im sure that the wolf and it's pups will eat them.

MelissaPrettyonTop
MelissaPrettyonTop

So we need to kill wolves in Wisconsin because they are killing bear hounds in training by protecting their pups and we're mad about that, therefore we are going to run our dogs into wolves and have them killed so we can hunt wolves. makes about as much sense as I kill wolves to save deer so I can kill deer. I'm totally sick of this hunting lobby crap. I say we push for statewide hound hunting ban, for bears wolves etc. You can't do any of this kind of behavior towards deer, because, of course, it's not "sporting". And Stepp apparently doesn't listen to the constituents. Very few people hunt with hounds, that's not the majority. Polls say that upwards of 68% of people don't support a public wolf hunting season at all. What she does do is whatever that sadist Suder and his money cronies want, not what the people want. Pretty consistent them across WI. I will be working hard to ban all hound hunting and frankly, ethical hunters should be on alert because when you push this far, the other side will eventually push back further.

reality22
reality22

Melissa what people are sick of is people like YOU.. 19 northern co boards passed resolutions against the wolf and any changes to the Wisconsin wolf management plan. The 3/4 of a million dollars it took to clean up after these disgusting animals in 2011 should be paid for by people like you .....not the taxpayer! I'm more than ready to push!

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

You are the endlessly sickening sadist we all are totally sick of - totally depraved wolf hating life hating sicko on all of the wolf sites spreading your lies and propaganda and garbage. Go hate in some other state and leave us alone.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

Join us at Wisconsin Wildlife Ethic - VOTE OUR WILDLIFE - www.wiwildlifeethic.org to organize politically for a first time democracy in governing our wildlife and public lands which are now 100% taken over to kill out our wildlife in traps, hounding and crossbow and gun slaughter.
You can read more at :
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/column/patricia-randolph-s-madravenspeak-a-call-to-action-and-radical/article_c70932be-568b-11e2-bacf-001a4bcf887a.html

Join us to ban hounding and all of the cruelties going on in our woods under the guise of "hunting".

powmda
powmda

Excellent! Hopefully, by next fall it will be permissible to conduct the "training" hunts. This will help us trim down the wolf population .We are plagued with far too many of these these pampered predators!

incogneato
incogneato

Excellent cant wait to use your hounds for target practice!.And your radio collars sell for a pretty penny to the right buyer too double win for me set your useless mongrels loose in the woods see what happens.It would be sad if you cry when they dont come back LOL.

MelissaPrettyonTop
MelissaPrettyonTop

Oh they'll just report it as a wolf loss I'm sure.

reality22
reality22

I take this comment as advocating the killing the hounds there Melissa.... your nothing be a two face bigot.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

Reality is the untruth of this site - the hatred just spews from him endlessly - it is these psychotics that now rule wildlife for their imbalance of nature, destruction of natural predators so they can kill every other creature.

Harvey
Harvey

By "pampered predators" you are of course referring to the hunters.

ricks11
ricks11

no it won,t but it will result in more dead dogs. The wolf population in WI will continue to thrive you wolf hating extremist.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

Far too many pampered trappers and hunters who have controlled our commons for killing for 80 years too long. TIME FOR REVOLUTION BY THE GROWN-UPS WHO RESPECT SCIENCE AND THE NATURAL WORLD - go trophy hunt in the football arena.

davejsy
davejsy

No country in the world has regressed in it's quest to save it's native animals as much as America has. 40 years to bring an animal back, and then a couple of hunting seasons to destroy this work. America is acting like a third world country, where money and guns rule. Science and reasoned debate takes a back seat. America has always been a favourite place of mine for it's wild spaces and wildlife, and I always admired the way that America fought to undo the wrongs of it's past when it came to the wolf. Sadly this admiration has now turned into disgust and disbelief that the hate and uneducated intelligence of a few is once again plaguing this country. Shame on you America, I for one will not be back to your shores until this stops.

reality22
reality22

davejsy, give it up! 40 years to bring back an animal that has OVER a 100% on AVERAGE to kill or maim someones livestock or pet over its livespan! Quit trying to put these vermin into areas they don't fit or belong! The only thing more disgusting is groups that wear their hearts out on their sleeves for this disgusting animal in order to get donations from disnified unsuspecting idiot like you! Shame on you davejsy!

The international environmental organization IUCN list the gray wolf as a species of "LEAST CONCERN" and davejsy believes it belongs in Outagamie Co Wisconsin!

Rosalie
Rosalie

Hey, reality - come into the 21st century - all species have a right to exist on this planet . It is not the private sandbox of the human species.

reality22
reality22

Hey rosalie - I don't give a hoot about what century it is - wolves won't live well around people in the 22nd century or the 50th century.... We will look back on this century and think about how disgusting it was trying to force this animal upon local people instead of preserving habitat and improving habitat. I thank god we have groups like DU and RMEF whose main purpose IS NOT filing law suits! You can take your Earth Justice & Center of Biodiversity and shove them where the sun doesn't shine!

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

Then control the overpopulated, glutted, greedy people who do not care that you are destroying the web of life that supports human life. Humans are out of control and we will stand up for our wildlife and turn this around. REVOLUTION! Join us at www.wiwildlifeethic.org to ORGANIZE.

ricks11
ricks11

This disgusting animal? Do you know how insane you look hating wildlife?

reality22
reality22

Calling a spade a spade ..... no matter how much you wiggle and dance! This disgusting animal will NEVER live well around people! I (along with many others) am sick of disnified idiots trying to put this disgusting parasites before people.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

You R22 will never live well on this planet and when you die, as you will, let's hope there is justice for all the hatred you have spewed - and endless karma in the hottest caverns of the afterlife.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

How many livestock do you predate on year after year after year with your sick obsession with being the only predator. You are the sick carcass eating psycho in this forum. GO AWAY.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

You are absolutely right. America has deteriorated into an obese, nature-hating, life destructive unworthy place. All of the rest of the world should boycott us for our cruelty and regression. R22 is typical of this obscenity.

william huard
william huard

Cathy Stepp was "disappointed" that the judge ruled to block hound training on wolves. Let's look at that for a minute. When the rule was passed by the NRB last year if I remember correctly training on wolves was allowed 365 days a year, 7 days a week, and hounders were allowed to "shoot" wolves that would be trying to protect their pups outside of their dens because there was absolutely no restrictions on hound training whatsoever in the final rule.....MS Stepp represents the "bloodthirsty degenerate" special interests who write the rules for "wildlife management" in the State.
These people just tried to allow hunting anf trapping in the remaining 60,000 acres that remain a "respite" from the thrill killers in Wisconsin. As the legislator stated- peace and quiet is not a constitutional right but hunting and trapping is.....good grief- these people are not embarrassed.....I find it curious how the vampires at SCI are involved in this issue......You always see them crawling around in the background whenever animal cruelty issues are involved......SCI- "promoting wildlife conservation worldwide"- first for hunters- last for wildlife.....What a joke

reality22
reality22

the only JOKE is people who push this disgusting animals ONLY for anti-hunting purposes! Billy your a miserable person.... you don't care that almost 300 of the trouble making vermin had killed by Minnesota Fish and Game department last year & they have been battling the trouble making disgusting animals ever since the first attempt at delisting!

amsayner Your the one resposible for the 1400 DOMESTIC confirmed animals these vermin have maimed and killed in Wisconsin since its return to the state. What a miserable way for YOU to treat other living being! You disgust me!

ricks11
ricks11

Reality, go get a job.

Rosalie
Rosalie

"Vermin" is a term use for natural predators by the ecologically ignorant of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Aldo Leopold wrote how very wrong this was.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE LIAR LIAR LIAR. AND a nature hating repeat troller to boot.

amsayner
amsayner

What a miserable way to treat other living beings.

william huard
william huard

Unfortunately it has been the "who cares" attitude that has created this monster in Wisconsin. People that exploit wildlife for pleasure usually rely on the public's apathy. They will keep "taking" until you stop them......

Booke
Booke

Who cares??

what justice
what justice

Usually you could count on people who bother to comment on the stories to care about them--not you, though... So why are you commenting on a story you don't care about?

cny91583
cny91583

Dog runners: wolf or bear when I come across your disgusting thin over run dogs - guess what I'm gonna do (not just me but those who hate yo bull crap arrogant attitude). When I find your dogs running off the beaten trail I'm taking a pic of your dog and your namuuuue on their e-collar and submitting it to PETA. You as%$#@es need to be done with. Gain some Sportsmanship. P.S. you will never regain that bling (e collar) if I remove it from the dog. GET OUT OF THE WOODS AND STAY OUT WE DON'T NEED YOUR MONEY! Flood the web with your babble it will fall on deaf ears. Those who see how you disgrace wildlife know the truth. You all brag in the bars we know who you are. You don't blend well with the locals go- back home.

yousuck
yousuck

Great idea, clown. Have you ever seen a hunting dog? You are another true idiot in a sea of idiots. If you want to stop the hunt, you may wish to rethink your worthless tactics, clown.

what justice
what justice

Ah! Now I know; you've skipped your meds for a few days!

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

Using dogs for your dirty work and obsession with killing to try to make you feel like men is pathetic. You are pathetic and the lowest of the low. Hounding is a thing of the past and Wisconsin has regressed to the cruelty of the 1800's. It is embarrassing to be from such a blatantly backwards state.

newprogressive
newprogressive

Just great. Now we have the distinction of being THE ONLY STATE IN THE NATION TO ALLOW WOLF HUNTING WITH DOGS. Just call us Wisissippi - we are going backwards in a big way. Hunting animals for the sake of killing and not for food is totally barbaric and disgusting. California just passed legislation making it illegal to use dogs to hunt bear and bobcat. They are evolving...Wisconsin is DEvolving. We are the state of idiots - in our legislature, in our DNR, in our Governor's office and apparently in our courts. And to think we used to be known for progress. Very sad indeed.

yousuck
yousuck

You forgot to state idiots in our progressives. If you and your ilk would stop protesting ever thing we may progress forward, but we will never know, because of your tantrums. But in the mean time enjoy the show.

what justice
what justice

Are you drunk?

WI_Retiree
WI_Retiree

newprogressive - kuddos! I agree with every word you posted.

reality22
reality22

haa haaa.. WOW.... a "progressive" telling us we need to be more like California..... That's the best one today~!

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

It is the very best one. Like New Jersey, only 1% of California kills wildlife - we are moving rapidly in that direction or will run out of wildlife entirely. Dead oceans will cap the destruction and humans will not survive.

Agreed, New Progressive.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

Join us at www.wiwildlifeethic.org to organize for a first time democracy for the 90% of the public not obsessed with defining their lives with mass killing of wildlife and massive cruelty. We must organize politically and demand our citizen rights to be represented. The time is now if you want any wildlife left. They will not stop until all wildlife is dead or mangled on the alter of their sadism.

incogneato
incogneato

whats more sporting is to shoot em in the woods and remove their radio collars and drive around the area in your truck for a few hours till you get bored and pitch the collars out on the highway or some tote road the fat lazy dog pack hunters hate it when you do that thats always entertaining

Rosalie
Rosalie

Too bad the judge can't rule that the top DNR management listen to their own wolf experts.

WinnerWinner
WinnerWinner

If wolves had evolved better, they'd be hunting us with dogs, snares and guns.

Evolution has consequences.

920Annie
920Annie

So how much taxpayer money was wasted going back and forth on this? We have nothing more important to worry about??

reality22
reality22

14 active law suits JUST for wolves as we speak..... 3 alone in Wyoming..... 100 of millions of dollars! Reform is needed, when they can try to peddle such a disgusting animals. Environmental Lawyers love idiot anti-hunters in wolf huggers clothing. Their day is coming for people are figuring out that if a group like DU or RMEF had that wasted millions they would preserve habitat and improve habitat at record pace......environmental lawyers would be in the unemployment line! The true wolf lovers are abandoning people like "what justice and billy wolf hoarder"

Here is what just one of the true wolf lovers had to say... pay close attention to the science part! http://m.startribune.com/opinion/?id=179739061

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

Yes - we have nothing more important to worry about than the massive destruction of biodiversity and the natural world by morons who cause so much suffering and death. So Annie - you are one of those women who could give a hoot about half a million animals mangled in traps in Wisconsin annually and dogs running across our public lands everywhere tearing up whatever wildlife is not mangled in traps, shot by morons with crossbows and high tech weapons. You could care less about wolf pups skinned as bait for wolves to be caught in traps and gut shot or have dogs loosed on them, out of sight out of mind.
What kind of woman are you?

Slithy Tove
Slithy Tove

Most of the wolves have not been hunted, but rather trapped and then shot while trapped. Sounds like great sport. Adding dogs can only increase the enjoyment.

Madravenspeak
Madravenspeak

The state is teaching sadism to kids - encouraging sadism in adults and the rest of the public sleeps.

reality22
reality22

Interesting that the MADLady has this problem...... she has no answers to the issues with wolves ....or other varmints for that matter. The only thing she has is a bigoted (which she admits) hatred for the hunter/trapper/hounder. She has this ignorant notion (or likes to lie outright to people) that wolves will take care of themselves. All we do is just let them run until they run out of prey and starve off themselves. The problem with that is running out of prey means running out of options.... when deer and elk are at a minimum these animals will look and do look for alternatives. One of the wolves alternatives is to move into other areas where livestock and pet are as common as the prey. In the past she like to brag about Minnesota as an example of how wolves should be managed....but, in recent blogs/articles has abandoned even that because she gets embarrassed by the facts and realities of wolves in Minnesota.

The above post the bigot claims we are teaching our children "sadism". Please tell me who is teaching their kids the realities of life...... the bigot, that has this venomous attitude about animal control of any kind, but behind their children's back they kill off hundreds of the vermin on the governments dime OR the sportsman that teaches their children about the realities of life and how we can be responsible and respectful to the wolf, other wildlife and our domestic animals by controlling its numbers before they set depredation records every year, draw down game herds below biologically sustainable levels and set control records by Government trappers.

What motivates the MADLady.....getting donations via her website which she pimped repeatedly on this site.

This is a serious question........ Who is more likely to go off the deep end and take a gun into the classroom and shoot people? The child of a bigoted hunter hater that presses an agenda that infringes on others inalienable rights, who's agenda hurts the very animals she tries to protect and the animals effected by those animals. A person that hides realities of wild animals to her children and gives them a disnified unrealistic view of wildlife and ranching. Then above all, a person that puts animals way before people. OR the child of a trapper that teaches responsible wildlife management, teaches the child the realities of predators, teaches the ethical trapping techniques taught in today's trapping classes of safety with both the predators property rights and guns, the love of the outdoors, the rights of ranchers and farmers and above all teaches that animals are not to be put before people?

reality22
reality22

Interesting that the MADLady has this problem...... she has no answers to the issues with wolves ....or other varmints for that matter. The only thing she has is a bigoted (which she admits) hatred for the hunter/trapper/hounder. She has this ignorant notion (or likes to lie outright to people) that wolves will take care of themselves. According to her all we do is just let them run until they run out of prey and starve off themselves or kill each other. The problem with that is running out of prey means running out of options.... when deer and elk are at a minimum these animals will look and do look for alternatives. One of the wolves alternatives is to move into other areas where livestock and pet are as common as the prey. In the past she liked to brag about Minnesota as an example of how wolves should be managed....but, in recent blogs/articles has abandoned even that because she gets embarrassed by the facts and realities of wolves in Minnesota that other throw in her face.

The above post the bigot claims we are teaching our children "sadism". Please tell me who is teaching their kids the realities of life...... the bigot, that has this venomous attitude about animal control of any kind, but behind their children's back they kill off hundreds of the vermin on the governments dime OR the sportsman that teaches their children about the realities of life and how we can be responsible and respectful to the wolf, other wildlife and our domestic animals by controlling its numbers before they set depredation records every year, draw down game herds below biologically sustainable levels and set control records by Government trappers.

What motivates the MADLady.....getting donations via her website which she pimped repeatedly on this site. (three times)

This is a serious question........ Who is more likely to go off the deep end and take a gun into the classroom and shoot people? The child of a bigoted hunter hater that presses an agenda that infringes on others inalienable rights, who's agenda hurts the very animals she tries to protect and the animals effected by those animals. A person that hides realities of wild animals to her children and gives them a disnified unrealistic view of wildlife and ranching. Then above all, a person that puts animals way before people. OR the child of a trapper that teaches responsible wildlife management, teaches the child the realities of predators, teaches the ethical trapping techniques taught in today's trapping classes of safety with both the predators property rights and guns, the love of the outdoors and the above all teaches that animals are not to be put before people?

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