A mining bill that is nearly identical to legislation voted down last session was introduced Wednesday by Republican legislators who hope that majorities in both houses will result this time in a different outcome and pave the way for a $1.5 billion iron ore mine in northern Wisconsin.

Largely, it was the same script and the same cast of characters and a strange sense of deja vu as state Sen. Tom Tiffany, R-Hazelhurst, introduced the proposal to a crowded conference room in the governor's office. He touted the jobs that mining would bring not only to depressed northern counties but to southern areas that are home to manufacturers of mining equipment.

"There is a real opportunity here in Wisconsin for us to have a resurgence in manufacturing," Tiffany said. He called the proposal to streamline permitting for iron mines — including a 420-day deadline for action on permit applications — a "21st century piece of mining legislation." And he said the bill would retain environmental protections.

But, just as last time around, critics pointed out that the legislation would allow a mining company to dispose of mining wastes in wetlands, rivers and streams. State Sen. Tim Cullen, D-Janesville, who chaired a joint mining committee that came up with its own version of a bill, said that rather than creating jobs, the GOP bill will delay mining by inviting lawsuits that challenge the weakening of constitutional water protections.

"It clearly allows the filling of lakes and streams," Cullen said. "They are willing to allow that to happen as a price that they are willing to pay."

Despite vows from the Republicans to work with Democrats on the legislation, Cullen said he was not contacted about potential changes in the bill based on work conducted over several months by his mining committee. He said he plans to introduce his own bill this week.

State Sen. Dale Schultz, R-Richland Center, who helped defeat last session's mining bill by jumping ship and voting with Democrats, said after Wednesday's press conference that he saw few substantial changes in the proposed legislation, other than some language. He said he did not receive a copy of the proposal until just prior to the press conference.

Republicans, including Gov. Scott Walker, who emphasized passage of a bill in his State of the State speech Tuesday night, hope to bring the legislation up for a vote by March.

State Rep. Scott Suder, R-Abbotsford, who is a co-author of the bill, said Republicans are willing to meet with Democrats to discuss potential changes to the proposed legislation.

"Our door is wide open," Suder said.

While Republicans said the bill is important to encourage mining projects throughout the state, their primary emphasis was clearly on reviving the shelved plan to build a 4 1/2-mile-long open pit iron mine in the Penokee Range south of Ashland. Gogebic Taconite, the company that proposed building the mine, pulled out of the state after the failure of mining legislation last session.

But Tiffany said he has met with Gogebic officials recently. "They are still interested," he added.

Among the speakers Wednesday was Leslie Kolasar, chairwoman of the Iron County Local Mining Impact Committee and a charter member of the Bad River Watershed Association. She said she supports the GOP mining bill and said she would welcome the return of mining jobs and "the dignity of work" to the Penokee Range.

"I trust our regulatory agencies to protect our water," Kolasar said. "And we have to consider not only the natural environment but also the human environment."

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spooky tooth
spooky tooth

They mined paradise and dug up a big open pit
Now the wet lands and ground water are destroyed
and no place for the people or animals to fit
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got til it's gone
They mined paradise and dug up a big open pit

Rosalie
Rosalie

No filling in of lakes and wetlands!

einstein
einstein

I hope the Indians stop it. I'm white and even I'm tired of white men in suits dinking everybody over all the time.

einstein
einstein

If you're for it then drink the well water near the mine drilling. Put your money where your mouth is or shut up.
I'll be laughing when people complain about the pollution and have to go even farther up north to find cleaner water.

meredithrobert3
meredithrobert3

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Walleyemaniac
Walleyemaniac

Plain and simple,we need two Governments! I wonder who would survive!

Harvey
Harvey

Isn't it interesting how conservatives are so very very concerned about the debt they will leave their children but when it comes to the quality of the water they will drink, air they will breath and food they will eat . . . .not so much. In fact I asked a conservative woman why this was the case. Her response? "Because they won't have any money." 'Nuf said.

tomtom33
tomtom33

It is interesting how some liberals think that only they can preserve our water, air and food. Onerous regulation will only insure failure on all fronts.

hankdog
hankdog

tomtom:

And where would you draw the line between responsible and onerous? Please, enlighten us with your infinite wisdom.

tomtom33
tomtom33

You think that a general rule could apply to everything?

hankdog
hankdog

tomtom:

No, but you sound like it does. Please define onerous if you have the ability as it applies to mining regulations. Rather than calling the process onerous, why don't you suggest a mutually acceptable solution that will both allow mining and protect the sensitive resources in the area. Now is your chance to show some initiative and leadership.

Harvey
Harvey

"And we have to consider not only the natural environment but also the human environment."

Translated: "And we have to let the corporate environment trump the natural environment." Too bad the she doesn't realize hurting the natural environment will also hurt the human environment. Just take a look at people in China. Lots of jobs and everybody is walking around with masks. That is not the world I want to live in.

tomtom33
tomtom33

Per your advice below, if you don't like this world, feel free to move.

skippie
skippie

Yet I heard the DNR believes this puts the correct safeguards in place and is in favor of the bill passing. Seems passing it is the right thing to do.

Harvey
Harvey

Interesting how you don't trust any facit of government to tell the truth except the DNR.

bk
bk

The whole DNR or just the Walker appointee?

kashka-kat
kashka-kat

You mean the same DNR you Ted Nugent types used to call "Dammn Near Russia"?

hankdog
hankdog

skippy:

Once again you are wrong. The DNR staff never said that, but rather that it was possible to revise the bill to make it more responsible. The R's refused to budge and it didn't pass. Now we have essentially the same bill proposed and it will end up a loser again.

Regardless of what the state does, if the mine can't meet federal standards it will never move a shovel of dirt.

Back in your cave.

196ski
196ski

hankdog, you're right of course, if the new State law in any way undermines Federal Standards then it won't see the light of day. If the Republicans are stupid enough to pass such a law then they should be voted out for wasting time and resources. I suspect they have done their homework and the law does not try to circumvent Federal standards.

hankdog
hankdog

ski:

The new proposal didn't change much, just correcting some citations, typos, etc. It would still allow for filling surface waters and wetlands.

196ski
196ski

"It would still allow for filling surface waters and wetlands."

That would require wetland mitigation with jurisdiction under the Army Corp of Engineers and WI-DNR. Nobody gets to fill in wetlands by Federal law. I am unfamiliar with the proposed law but I do know that their is overlap in which governing body handles the mitigation. I did one mitigation where the application was reviewed by the Corp, approved by the Corp and in the 11th hour the WI-DNR got involved. No complaints, the Corp and WI-DNR are both first class organizations dedicated to doing their jobs. Again, I don't know but this may be an attempt to limit which government agency takes the lead.
Repeat, nobody gets to just fill in wetlands in this State without an approved permit, mitigation and long term mitigation monitoring.

hankdog
hankdog

ski:

You are singing to the choir. To fill wetlands or waters of the US they would need a Corps 404 permit and a DNR Certificate of Water Quality. It is the Corps permit authority and needs concurrence from the state. What the law would probably do is soften up the DNR standards for the CWQ. Wetlands are hard to replace. Surface waters are impossible. Been there, done that.

I would bet that this is strictly a political game, where the R's can claim they they tried to get a mine built but the Feds (under a D) stopped them. Then the R's can claim that they did all they could.

Other questions: Why, with other cheaper and better sources of iron ore would anyone want to open up this low grade deposit? Why is G-tac, coal miners without iron mining experience getting involved with this loser? Betcha there is another game afoot.

196ski
196ski

hank, it is hard for me to believe that this would be anything other than an attempt to get a mining operation going in the area. To go through all of this knowing it would fail would be beyond ridiculous. Not saying it isn't possible, these are politicians after all.

As for the low grade ore, all of the easy ore was mined early in the 1900's. I live only a couple of miles from several abandoned iron ore mines where the rock was right up on top, no real overburden to worry about. Iron ore reserves in this country are in the Range, across Northern Wisconsin and into the UP. That's it. Or economy runs on steel so the demand will ebb and flow but will never go away. Certainly not a get rich quick mine, I don't see this turning a profit for 5-10 years or more which from an environmental protection standpoint is a good thing. They are going to be there for a long time so paying attention to the environment is in their best interest.

hankdog
hankdog

ski:

As you said, these are politicians, so anything could happen. But no mine will be built without the feds approving it. And as the WI bill stands right now it is not a permitable activity. So what is going on? Mischief, perhaps.

As far as the overburden issue, there was testimony last year (USGS perhaps) that stated that the overburden, several 100 feet plus, was probably of sulfur bearing material and would probably cause acid runoff. G-tac had done test bores but refused to share that information with regulators. So for anyone to dismiss the leachate issue is premature. The big question is, why wouldn't G-tac be up front on this contentious issue?

MSNbubble
MSNbubble

The MSN bubble is alive and well I see. Go Scott!

Harvey
Harvey

If you are not happy with the MSN bubble kindly hook up your house and move it somewhere.

MadCityYokal
MadCityYokal

"Our door is wide open," Suder said." . . . And his and like minded colleagues thoughts on any compromise or bi-partisanship on what is being proposed? Closed as tight as a bear-trap.

iponder
iponder

What a crock. Cullen and Schultz were the only voices of reason and now they have been black balled. To all those folks who think they might get a mining job, please know this....if you don't have mining experience, don't expect much. If you look at the national numbers, there are many miners out of work. They are the ones who will be filling these jobs. We, the Wisconsin taxpayers will pay the bill for environmental degradation. The winners? The legislators receiving contributions from the mining industry.

Scooters Conscience
Scooters Conscience

You forgot about ME. I win too! The Koch brothers are going to invite out to Cali again for sure. I heard Suzy Favor Hamilton is going to be in town the same weekend I give my next announcment to Wisconsin citizens in Cali. It's a win win!

swarley
swarley

Just look to Minot ND. Unemployment rate is 2.4% because of mining. Your looking at National numbers and your right... there out of work because we have a President who's dead set against mining/oil drilling (keystone) and creating jobs.

tomtom33
tomtom33

Mining and fracking have helped Minot. However that huge air force base has helped as well.

bk
bk

Yes, let's look at Minot, N.D.

What happens when you mine for tar-sands oil like they do in Minot":
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[b]Study: Tar Sands Oil Production Leads to Increase in Cancer-Causing Chemicals[/b]
A recent study in Canada has found the development of the tar sands oil fields in Alberta has led to increased levels of carcinogenic compounds in surrounding lakes and a wider contamination than previously known. Canadian government-backed researchers say deposits of cancer-causing chemicals have grown steadily since major oil sands production began in 1978.
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Same type of mining they are doing in Minot.

That is EXACTLY what the economy in WI needs!Jobs that produce cancer!

bk
bk

source for blurb above^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/1/17/headlines#1170

jrschraven
jrschraven

Shocker.

S54k
S54k

Yeah, we all know the republican lawmakers don't care about the environmental impact of mining, but does it make business sense for the state of Wisconsin? We'd be giving our environment away, but where exactly does the state benefit? Kestrel Aircraft was one of walker's (and the WEDC's) first business deal. WEDC gave them $4 million in loans (I wonder if these are being tracked) and a total of $118 million in loans, grant, tax breaks and credits. http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/article/id/220645/. All this to generate 600 jobs paying at least $20/hour by 2016. Just a quick calc tells me this costs us taxpayers just under $200,000 per job paying just over $40,000 per year. And that's if they hit their goals! I thought republicans hung their hat on knowing how to do business. Obviously there's something going on under the covers that benefits those passing the laws and not the tax payers, or citizens that drink water! Any republican that rubber stamps this without asking questions about the benefits for our state should be ashamed! DO YOUR JOB!

Scooters Conscience
Scooters Conscience

As long as I sign off it there is no problem. I only sign off on it if it is good for everyone.

swarley
swarley

You know you love this President so much...I'm sure you love his EPA. There are rules and regulations already in place to protect your environment.

Buckstail52
Buckstail52

It took all of one day for the real agenda to be known. Congratulations Scotty. Don't expect anyone to believe anything you say. I was really hoping we would see some bi-partison discussion and concern. It looks like more of the same.

Make sure you get a chance to drive north and see the Penokee Range. Then imagine it with a 1000 foot deep 5 mile long mine. Drive through Virginia, Minnesota and see what it will look like.

Lets make sure we hold public meetings in Kenosha and Milwaukee like before so the people most affected by this 300 miles to the north don't get a chance to come and speak. More of the same.

gamersdontcry
gamersdontcry

Lefties would rather not have jobs created than see Wisconsin succeed. You are all a bunch of losers, bottom of the barrel.
Scott Walker looked like he should be president instead of Bozo (the one we have now)

bk
bk

OOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!

Another Good One!


And another Bozo refernece. How creative! Like this Bill!

Fascinating that the only way Wisconsin can succeed is by Sh*tting in it's own drinking water. What a hand to be dealt!


Let's put a mechanism in place that says that ALL persons profiting from any mine approved after passage of this legislation be forced to live in the immediate vicinity of the mine (not just own property, but actually reside there), and drink from the water into which the waste from that mine is discharged (with no additional filtering than offered the poorest person in that area).

Observer5
Observer5

The legislation would allow the mine to "dispose of mining wastes into wetlands, rivers, and streams." How many proponents want to move downstream of this for some "fortified" water? The land will be cheap.

koala
koala

gamers - hey, Scottie's Kool Aid tastes good, doesn't it. :^)

Dude, there is NO CHANCE – ZERO – NADA - NIL – that the mine this bill is supposed to expedite will EVER be allowed to move forward. The Bad River Tribe has already expressed their supreme displeasure with the lack of environmental safeguards for their backyard and water supply, and indicated that they will sue the state in Federal court to prevent the mine going forward. If you think, for two seconds, that the Feds will let this turkey go forward, you are as misled (and played to a tee by Scottie and the GOP) as all those guys who lined up against spearfishing by the Lac de Flambeau 25 years ago. As you may recall, that didn't end so well for the opponents. The mine will fail for precisely the same reason.

196ski
196ski

koala, the tribes sued in Federal court to stop new mine developments in the UP and failed every time. Do you have any examples of where the tribes have been successful at stoping development off-reservation?

koala
koala

196ski - I'll see what I can find in the record. In the interim, I will repeat my point that the Ojibwe/Lac de Flambeau did have their OFF-RESERVATION rights to hunt and fish upheld by federal court. It is not too great a leap to recognize that it will be impossible to hunt or fish on the lands affected by what will be a mammoth mine. If you accept that, a decision against mine would seem inevitable.

Solstice
Solstice

OK, 196ski, How about the Crandon mine? There were proposals to mine that site dating back to the '70s, and the Mole Lake band of the Sokaogon Ojibwe opposed it right out of the gate. Other tribes joined with the Mole Lake band to coordinate grass roots opposition, coupled with court action. The long and short of it is that the tribe won the battle. Mining never occurred on the site. And the tribe's position was ultimately supported by the US Supreme Court with its 2002 decision that tribes were authorized to establish stricter air and water standards for their reservations and trust lands than those established by the state. In light of this case, and given that the Penokee mine would send mine waste directly into the Bad River headwaters, I'm willing to bet there will never be mining in the Penokee range. Maybe this mining bill will lead to activity elsewhere in the state, but it won't be there.

kashka-kat
kashka-kat

Washington state is another example of treaties protecting the fisheries. All the terms of the various treaties are different - can't generalize about them at all. Some protect off reservation resources more than others. Can't generalize about tribes - some got totally shafted, others not so bad.

196ski
196ski

Thanks for the civil reply below Koala. The tribes did have their rights to hunt and fish in the ceded territories upheld but that is far different than telling private land owners what they can and cannot do on private property. I watched pretty closely in the UP with the new mines being developed there and the tribes did not win a single case. Those mines are now being developed.

Solstice, there is a difference between delaying the development of a mine/factory/subdivision/anything thru continuous lawsuits until the developer either gives up or runs out of money and actually having the legal right to stop something that does not occur on reservation property. Maybe the larger question is should the tribes have final say on ANY development that occurs in the ceded territories?

Clarification. The mine will never be allowed to discharge mine waste into any State waters. The Federal Clean Water Act would not allow it and neither would the State.

There are legitimate environmental concerns about any mining activities but some of the claims I read here are simply unbelievable. This isn't rare earth mining, refining, or smelting. This is iron ore mining. It is not environmentally neutral, but then neither is anything else that we do. The iron ore will be transported by ship from probably Duluth or maybe even Ashland to steel mills on the Great Lakes and that steel will be used in products we use everyday. If your at work chances are the steel building you are working in came from an iron ore mine on either the Range or the UP.

Question. Should the next development in downtown Madison be required to be built from wood? Obviously not but where then should the steel come from?

Solstice
Solstice

It's odd, 196, but as the discussion revolved around what the tribes could (or could not) do to stop mining in the Penokee Range, we never talked about being pro- or anti-mining. You might think I'm anti-mining, but this isn't true. I am anti-Penokee Range mining, and this is due largely to the fact that I am an enrolled member of the Bad River Band and we are, by and large, opposed to the project because of the effect it will likely have on the Bad River. So, sure, we'll take whatever action necessary-- legal, grassroots-- to prevent or at least delay as long as possible this development. The case law remains-- Albuquerque v. Browner and Wisconsin v. EPA (the Crandon mine-related case)-- that tribes can set their own environmental standards on their reservations and that upstream (off-reservation) discharge must comply with downstream (on-reservation) tribal standards. If pursuing our cause means that we're building new structures in downtown Madison out of mud and rocks, so be it. But I don't really think that leaving the ore in the Penokee range is going to mean the extinction of steel, do you?

Mr Mellow
Mr Mellow

This mining move by Walker & the WISGOP is about political positioning and contributions.

Even if passed promptly, this bill WON'T create any mining jobs by the time Walker runs for re-election in 2014, so the estimated 3,000 jobs won't get Walker to his 250,000 jobs goal.
Walker, Vos, and Fitzgerald will use Democrat opposition to the bill's environmental shortcomings to shift blame for the failure to create new jobs from them to the Dems.

Passing the bill WILL generate lots of corporate contributions to Walker's 2014 campaign. That will enable Walker to smear his opponent loudly and incessantly, just like in the recall.

Scooters Conscience
Scooters Conscience

I hate it when people say the truth about my motivations. Look, there are 8 other states worse off than Wisconsin for job creation, can't you go to one of those states and complain. I need to get some revenue coming in, and don't need any more "reality checks". I need sore REAL checks. And some REAL money.

swarley
swarley

MINOT ND...unemployment rate 2.4%.

bk
bk

Study: Tar Sands Oil Production Leads to Increase in Cancer-Causing Chemicals

A recent study in Canada has found the development of the tar sands oil fields in Alberta has led to increased levels of carcinogenic compounds in surrounding lakes and a wider contamination than previously known. Canadian government-backed researchers say deposits of cancer-causing chemicals have grown steadily since major oil sands production began in 1978.


Same type of mining they do in Minot. So that's nice. Fantastic. We need to support this type of activity! Let's cite it as a reason to proceed here in OUR state.

bk
bk

source for above blurb:
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/1/17/headlines#1170

blue5641
blue5641

Not the Koch brothers, but Chris Cline. Get familiar with his investments.

WI_Retiree
WI_Retiree

Civil_Citizen, the union thugs are the ones that are stubborn, such as you.

Scooters Conscience
Scooters Conscience

Are there any OTHER kind of thugs? Thanks for sticking up for me WI_Retiree. May the cheese be with you!

bk
bk

There are THUGS in the UNION?

And THEY Have a Monopoly on stubbornness?


Was 2-PAC in the union?

bk
bk

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Among the speakers Wednesday was Leslie Kolasar, chairwoman of the Iron County Local Mining Impact Committee and a charter member of the Bad River Watershed Association. She said she supports the GOP mining bill and said she would welcome the return of mining jobs and "the dignity of work" to the Penokee Range.

"I trust our regulatory agencies to protect our water," Kolasar said. "And we have to consider not only the natural environment but also the human environment."

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Leslie went on to say, "That's why we also intend to weaken all regulatory agencies in addition to redefining the words, 'natural', 'human', 'consider', and 'environment'."

koala
koala

Satanic thralls.

bluecollarallthetime
bluecollarallthetime

Federal Tribal Treaties will put this right where it belongs in the garbage, Republicans get it through your head we don't want our resources poisoned.!!!

gamersdontcry
gamersdontcry

Scott Walker is Great, all you lefties voted for Bozo and all he wants to do is ruin our country.

bk
bk

Not me.

I didn't vote for Bozo.

I voted for "Bozo The Clown".

Scooters Conscience
Scooters Conscience

Yeah, I voted for Romney of course. And I made my son vote him too when I used same day voter registration for my son on election day two months ago. Too bad they voted bozo in again. What we needed in the Oval Office was a guy like me. A liar.

Rosalie
Rosalie

I think I heard that Republicans were going to try to sabotage any efforts by the tribes to protect this area,

Marv
Marv

It really doesn't matter what gets passed by the legislature. If the left doesn't like it, they'll just find a sympathetic judge to rule it unconstitutional on whatever grounds he or she chooses. People like to suggest that democracy isn't being served by the GOP in charge. They couldn't be more wrong. These people are in office because the majority of voters put them there. That's democracy in action. The left only accept the outcomes of democracy in action when they win. Then they claim the people have spoken. What frauds these people are. If given the opportunity they would outlaw any candidate that wasn't theirs -- believe it.

bk
bk

Marv, you are projecting here. You have your parties mixed up.

By the way, I see you visited Gouvernor Doe recently (You still have some on your chin).

Scooters Conscience
Scooters Conscience

Marv, you got it right. I don't know why all these Democratic party members say the governors office was purchased by the billionaires of the GOP. Sure they donated a lot more money to the campaign, but they know a good investment and are being rewarded, well rewarded, in this current legislative session. You also got it right about "outlawing any candidate that wasn't theirs" only we beat them do it with our gerrymandering of the Wisconsin legislative districts. I'm talking a 20 year lock if not more. It's the GOP way or no way from now on. See you at the next fundraiser!

powmda
powmda

Good! Put it to a vote and see how many Democrats are in fact interested in creating private sector jobs! So far, with all their carping, I have not see one Democrat proposal for creating one single private sector job. The only jobs they are interested in are nose-in-the-hog-trough unionized public employee "positions". All their chanting of "Wheres Duh Jobs? Huh? Youse promised us Duh Jobs!!", is falling on deaf ears outside of Madison.

bk
bk

Wooo HOOOOOO!

Good One!

The only true way to tell if a Democrat is "in fact interested in creating private sector jobs" is to see if they vote to sh*t in the state's water supply! Obviously!

We all know that the Republicans will vote to sh*t directly into the mouths of their constituents for a dollar, but where EXACTLY do those shifty liberal bass turds stand?


Scooters Conscience
Scooters Conscience

Right on brother of the GOP! The Democrats don't have any time to create jobs because they are too busy suing me for my unconstitutional laws. I guess if I would abide by the consitution maybe they could be freed up to concentrate on creating jobs, but there is no chance of that. I'm not a legal scholar, just a guy who got kicked out of college for cheating. However, so far I'm well on my way to creating 250,000 new jobs. The only problem is that the only jobs I've created are in the WEDC, appointing more people to find out what happened to the millions of dollars we've already "lost".

Observer5
Observer5

"Mining wastes in wetlands, rivers, and streams" - yum.yum. And goodbye fish and tourism.

Scooters Conscience
Scooters Conscience

No hello toxic fish and tourists who won't know the difference because I'll abolish the DNR before the news gets out. Then I'll create a multi-million dollar tourism advertising campaign that touts Wisconsin's fresh water fishing hot spots. I'll take the money from some grant for poor people. That always works.

eclectic
eclectic

The republicans should pass the bill on a party line vote. Everyone can read it after its passed.....and they will like it.

7time3
7time3

What a shock.........NOT!!!! Business as usual in Wisconsin!

Cheezer
Cheezer

Pass the bill. Get on with it! Mine away!

hankdog
hankdog

Good luck.

kashka-kat
kashka-kat

That's just great - toss out the truly bi-partisan work that was done last year and ram through the lobbyists boilerplate legislation.removing environmental protections. Just like old times (as we come up upon the 2nd anniversary of 2-11-11). Like many Im all rested up now and ready to resume activist mode.

There is nothing "pro-mining" about this - it's purely anti-environmental.

Wis with its unique interconnected aquifers and underground waterways is extremely vulnerable to sulphides - sulphide + water = sulphuric acid which is highly toxic . You might think you're only dumping wastes into a river or stream up north- only to find its made its way into drinking water down here.

ems1
ems1

Ummm...can you say Koch brothers!

Civil_Citizen
Civil_Citizen

More of the same from the Republicans. Too stubborn (or stupid) to change the Bill.

array1
array1

How does Van Hollen feel about this? Whether or not the GOP version gets implemented rests on his shoulders after all.

witness2012
witness2012

Walker, Vos, and Fitzgerald didn't learn a thing from last year. All they did was try to increase their majority in the senate so they could force it through even if Dale Schultz voted with the democrats.

What they haven't done is try to write a better piece of legislation. So, here we go again- more and ramped up conflict in the capitol and in state government.

johnnn
johnnn

If Republicans were sincere in their new-found claims of bi-partisanship, they would have at least conferred with the Senate committee that held hearings and issued a compromise version of the bill this summer. This action only serves to validate Democrats' fears of extreme partisanship in the upcoming legislative session.

Scott, let me remind you of the very first word of your Boy Scout oath: Trustworthy

hankdog
hankdog

Unless the new bill takes other regulatory agencies and the tribes into consideration this bill is just a charade being played out for political purposes. WI can pass all the bills they want, but federal agencies still hold the trump card on wetlands and surface water. Tiffany, Vos, et al are sure going about this is a strange and most certainly fruitless manner.

If you are in favor of mining, lets hope some more serious legislators speak up.

Harvey
Harvey

Exactly. Concerned interests are lining up and ready to file suit. This won't see the light of day for years.

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