John Nichols: Yes, Ryan should appear at UW

2012-10-11T05:30:00Z 2012-10-29T21:12:33Z John Nichols: Yes, Ryan should appear at UWJOHN NICHOLS | The Capital Times | jnichols@madison.com madison.com

It has been suggested that Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan should make a campaign stop on the University of Wisconsin-Madison campus. Conservatives who objected to the way in which UW officials managed President Obama’s visit last week want Ryan to visit in order to test the commitment of the UW to a genuine “sifting and winnowing” of ideas.

It’s a great idea. Schedule Ryan for a rally on Bascom Hill. Give his campaign the same cooperation that the Obama campaign got. And let’s see how things go for the crown prince of conservatism.

Republicans used to campaign on the UW campus, back in the days when the party was serious about competing for the votes of all Americans — even the 47 percent that Mitt Romney dismisses as a “dependent” class and the 60 percent of citizens whom Ryan decries as “takers versus makers.”

Indeed, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul received an enthusiastic welcome on campus in March. (And Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson, a former Republican governor of New Mexico who shares many positions with Paul, would undoubtedly draw a crowd.)

So, yes, by all means, Paul Ryan should campaign on campus. And maybe when the Republican vice presidential nominee is done in Madison, he’ll visit Janesville and debate his opponent in the 1st District congressional race: Democrat Rob Zerban.

John Nichols is associate editor of The Capital Times. jnichols@madison.com

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  1. 1956mercury
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    1956mercury - October 16, 2012 2:20 pm
    Job growth in Massachusetts was 1.4% under Romney while job growth under George Bush for the entire nation was 5.3% in the same period.
    When you only do 25% as much as the nation, I call that underachieving. I'd even call Romney's performance in creating more jobs a failure.
    As Governor, he refused to raise taxes on the rich while hitting everyone else with widespread user fees. He practiced austerity, cutting aid to education, local governments, job training programs, and trade assistance. His jobs record reflects his policies there.
    Austerity doesn't work in a high unemployment economy. Romney proved it in Massachusetts.

    I would NEVER vote for Rob-Me; after one term as Massachusetts Governor, the People of the State of Massachusetts decided the same thing, INCLUDING REPUBLICANS!!!!
  2. 1956mercury
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    1956mercury - October 16, 2012 2:18 pm
    Not only was vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan photographed washing some perfectly clean dishes, now the man who runs the homeless shelter in Ohio where the photo-op took place has slammed the Romney campaign for the stunt. Brian J. Antal, president of the Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society, said he hadn't been contacted about Ryan's visit and claimed Ryan's staffers "ramrodded their way" into the kitchen to get the photo. He said the campaign "showed up there, and they did not have permission. They got one of the volunteers to open up the doors."
    Rob-Me/Lyin Ryan LOW LIFE, LYING, TAX CHEATING, OPPORTUNISTIC, FRAUDS!
    A Republican Wisconsin state representative says his comments that "some girls rape easy" have been taken out of context. This must be ANOTHER of Lyin Ryan’s friends????
    I will take Joe Biden any day of the week over your CREEPS!!!!
  3. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 12, 2012 3:39 pm
    sure you got your toy figure talking points all lined up...

    the liberals believing in liberty line cracked me up....it's true though which is why i don't consider the majority of leftists here to be liberals!

    the leftists here don't believe in liberty, they believe in the state.

    just ask a leftist to stand up for our 2nd Ad rights

  4. Good Gosh
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    Good Gosh - October 12, 2012 1:26 pm
    The Republicans are afraid of Madison, why? Well, heck, we're known for being liberal activists (like our judges, you know). That alone is reason for Republicans to quake in their boots at the mere mention of Madison or Dane County. Even though they own the governor's office, the assembly, the state patrol, even though every state agency except the Department of Public Instruction is owned by them, even though the Wisconsin Supreme Court walks in lock-step with the bosses, even despite all this, they are scared of Madison and Dane County. Why, you might ask? With all that power, why be afraid? Well, it's really quite simple. Liberals believe in actual liberty. They believe in the Constitution. They ask uncomfortable questions of high dignitaries. They question, they argue, they don't fall down on their knees to worship at the alter of ALEC. THAT is why Ryan won't come to Madison. And THAT is why this city and county are so hated by Republicans. .
  5. Voters Matter First
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    Voters Matter First - October 12, 2012 12:26 pm
    And aequalitas is a brain surgeon! LOL
  6. Voters Matter First
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    Voters Matter First - October 12, 2012 12:24 pm
    How'd that work for ya? Biden rehearsed for almost two months and didn't really make any gaffes but he should have laid off of the amphetamines a little bit. He and his master can both pack their bags.
  7. Voters Matter First
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    Voters Matter First - October 12, 2012 12:21 pm
    Yes Romeny & Ryan's plans will be bad for Americans who are able to work but would rather be ON WELFARE. No problems for those of us who value working for a living.

    As far as Joe went last night..... was he smokin crack? Crack smokers have a hard time staying calm and shutting up when someone else it talking too.
  8. Voters Matter First
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    Voters Matter First - October 12, 2012 12:17 pm
    After four years as president Obama still isn't qualified to be vice-president and Biden being one step away from president??? We'd be just as well off with Maw Maw.
  9. Voters Matter First
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    Voters Matter First - October 12, 2012 12:13 pm
    It's Nickles.... like all that's left when progressive govt control freaks get done spending other people's money.
  10. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 12, 2012 9:00 am
    debate came and went.

    ryan taught biden a lesson or two in civility!!

    biden held workshop in condesending jerk smile making
  11. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 12, 2012 8:45 am
    yes let's distract from the issue with statements from allen west.

    that makes sense.

    guy says i was lying about the pledge, i present evidence and the conversation is turned to allen west.

    i wonder why
  12. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 12, 2012 8:42 am
    countdown to some fawning piece over biden's performance.

    if you want to see a jerk liberal who thinks they are the smartest person in the room, look no further then biden during the debate!

    he interrupted ryan over 80 times in a 90 minute debate.

    yeah i'm sure that sh!t eating grin and laughing is going to win voters!

    more like re-enforce the jerk level that most liberals thrive at.

    maybe it will up the level of smear attacks
  13. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 12, 2012 8:39 am
    you'd be bankrupt if you cashed in obama's record based on the worth of his promises!
  14. pete
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    pete - October 11, 2012 11:54 pm
    wow, nikkels is getting more and more sad by the day. Tell you what, next time obama is in town, tell him to make a swing up north where the votes count just as much and see what kind of response/turnout he would get.
  15. aequalitas
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    aequalitas - October 11, 2012 9:14 pm
    classic, I know Dan Quayle. Dan Quayle is a friend of mine. And Joe Biden is no Dan Quayle.

    Just kidding, but what makes you think Quayle is any more intelligent or capable than Joe Biden? Quayle is A LOT smarter than his political enemies gave him credit for, and so is Biden.
  16. aequalitas
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    aequalitas - October 11, 2012 9:12 pm
    Sorry but that is pure nonsense. Scientific studies have shown that those inclined to vote Republican may not be well educated, but they are still only about 10 points lower on IQ tests than those inclined to vote Democratic. That's not a huge margin, unless you are talking about the gullibility factor, such as believing Scott Walker is as honest as an Eagle Scout.
  17. aequalitas
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    aequalitas - October 11, 2012 9:09 pm
    Maybe "I'm in" meant that the students were declaring "I'm in the COMMUNIST PARTY", just like 80 Democratic Party congressional members according to looney tooney conspiracy theory Republican congressman Allen West (rated a "pants on fire" lie by politifact.com

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/apr/11/allen-west/allen-west-says-about-80-house-democrats-are-membe/
  18. aequalitas
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    aequalitas - October 11, 2012 9:06 pm
    It's Nichols, not Nickles.
    Nickles are what Ryan and Romney promises are worth. Pennies are what their ideas are worth.
  19. Nav
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    Nav - October 11, 2012 3:32 pm
    Assuming the Vice President does not make any gaffes, I do beleive he will tame Mr Ryan and teach him a lesson or two about politics.
  20. Nav
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    Nav - October 11, 2012 3:30 pm
    Tomtom33, right now we are both expressing our opinions neither having a monopoly on making correct predictions. The truth will come out on election day.
  21. mttstrb
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    mttstrb - October 11, 2012 2:48 pm
    No, students don't directly pay property taxes, but they certainly are accounted for in the cost of rents paid. Be sure that property managers aren't paying them themselves out of the goodness of their heart.
  22. athabasca
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    athabasca - October 11, 2012 11:52 am
    "I'm in" to come to the rally -- duh.

    Set up a throw-away email account, give a false name. Not rocket science. The tickets barely got checked anyway.

  23. ABunkerSuperPatriot
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    ABunkerSuperPatriot - October 11, 2012 10:08 am
    We all know that the average republican voter is not too smart.
  24. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 11, 2012 9:33 am
    unleash the cardboard stench!
  25. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 11, 2012 9:31 am
    """""""""""""""""""A trio of high-profile UW-Madison professors went public Wednesday with concerns about President Barack Obama's planned Thursday campaign rally, saying students who want to attend are unfairly being required to supply a phone number and email address to the campaign, even having to click "I'm In" to get a free ticket at the campaign's website.""""""""""""

    http://host.madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/three-uw-professors-irked-at-some-details-of-obama-s/article_64ab559a-0dc3-11e2-92d4-0019bb2963f4.html

    i have heard donors to the uw aren't happy about it either.....

    why do the leftists here wear their ignorance as a badge of pride??

    who's the liar?
  26. dante
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    dante - October 11, 2012 9:08 am
    There was no "pledge" to vote for Obama.

    It's unfortunately that right-wingers have to LIE to try to make people vote for their candidate. Are your positions really that unpopular?
  27. hughjazzsoul
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    hughjazzsoul - October 11, 2012 8:35 am
    If he won't come to UW maybe Nickles should bring along his life size cut out of Ryan and stage his own debate with the VP candidate. No need for the real Ryan to be present. As we have seen, Nickles only hears what he believes. Opposing views are like buzzards circling his head.
  28. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 11, 2012 8:19 am
    you mean fake like the empty chair who will feebly look down and avoid confrontation when presented but come out swinging the next couple of days when opponent isn't around and the president is surrounded by fawning college kids???

    you make this claim that their actual plans would be very bad for americans. that's an inference. we'd need the chance to see if it happened.

    we know obama's plans are very bad for americans and the last four years are proof.
  29. webmasterbigbrother
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    webmasterbigbrother - October 11, 2012 8:17 am
    he should hold the rally but make everyone who attends sign up their personal info and a pledge to vote for romney LIKE OBAMA did for his rally here!

    then i bet john would stand up to this nonsense, saying it goes against american ideals.

    actually he'd probably spin it so that the GOP did it first! those evil racist son of guns
  30. Lynne4300
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    Lynne4300 - October 11, 2012 8:00 am
    Obama......campaigning for president
    Ryan...........campaigning for vice president

    Obama seems to think he is running against Paul Ryan.
  31. tomtom33
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    tomtom33 - October 11, 2012 7:55 am
    His home district that has overwhelmingly re-elected him every time he ran? I believe that he just might win another term. Hopefully he will not be able to serve in the House.

    If the voters are so confused, why has Romney edged ahead? Seems that the voters do not agree with you.
  32. Nav
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    Nav - October 11, 2012 7:50 am
    Wishbone, cities where a President goes coiver the securty costs. Thats pretty normal!
  33. wishbone
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    wishbone - October 11, 2012 6:29 am
    I would hazzard a guess here......Ryan wouldn't debate on campus for the very reason that Obama does......... Most students haven't paid a dime of property taxes.
    They will get their "real" eduacation when their "formal " education is over.
    And speaking of such, I haven't heard how much Madison/State taxpayers will have to cough up in real numbers to cover Obama's security team costs.
  34. classic
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    classic - October 11, 2012 6:20 am
    The only thing you have right is that Romney and Ryan would be bad for welfare(notice the Ameicans and thier is removed) Why should Ryan come to the UW and speak in front of a crowd that for the most part has never had to work a day in their lives and have no clue what the real world is like. They have been coddled by their parents for most of their lives. As for smoking Joe he has to be smoking something because he is dumber than Dan Quayle..
  35. Nav
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    Nav - October 11, 2012 6:04 am
    Paul Ryan, who talks "tough" is not really tough at all. I highly doubt he would come to UW Madison for a rally. He has a hard time holding rallies in his own district where he knows he would be booed a lot and embarassed. He i snot coming to UW-Madison!

    I have always argued that Ryan and Romney are total fakes. By that I mean that they will say one thing one time, and a different thing another time. Since their actual plans would be very bad for Americans and their welfare, they just go around saying things to "confuse" the voters until election time.

    I am hoping smoking Joe will give Prince Ryan a good spankin in tonight's debate


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