Patricia Randolph's Madravenspeak: As CWD rises in deer herd, what about risk for humans?

2013-07-21T04:30:00Z 2015-03-26T21:23:58Z Patricia Randolph's Madravenspeak: As CWD rises in deer herd, what about risk for humans?PATRICIA RANDOLPH | state columnist madison.com

"The ever-increasing number of CWD-infected deer on the landscape ... and the accompanying exponential increase of environmental contamination with CWD prion will result in increased interspecies, including human, exposure.” — Dr. David Clausen, veterinarian, recently retired Natural Resources Board chairman

Scientists around the world are concerned that prion diseases may be zoonotic — communicated from animal to human. According to Wikipedia, “Many modern diseases, even epidemic diseases, started out as zoonotic diseases.” It is suspected that AIDS was transmitted to humans from African primates eaten as meat.

The leaders at the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources simply follow the ideological agenda of its hunter clientele. Since killing deer is the primary attraction for hunters, the department does not want to threaten the deer hunt. But they are doing just that. Testing for chronic wasting disease has been drastically reduced as CWD rates in our state rise. In 2002, just after CWD was recognized here, 40,000 deer were tested and the rate of infection was 0.51 precent. In 2012, 5.13 percent of 6,611 deer tested showed infection — a 10-fold increase in 10 years.

According to a PR Watch article in June, “about one out of every three male deer aged 2.5 years and older carries CWD in north-central Iowa County, as does one out of every six yearling male deer (1.5 years old)” and the rate is increasing 10 percent each year. Bucks are twice as likely to be infected but the disease is expanding faster in does.

Experts told outdoor writer Pat Durkin this rate of increase is "unprecedented," "frightening" and "disturbing." According to Durkin, “That resembles annual infection rates of mule deer in southeastern Wyoming’s Converse area, where 40 to 50 percent of the herd is infected.”

I was just ending my three-year term as an elected Dane County delegate to the so-called Conservation Congress when the DNR recognized CWD in our deer herd. In 2002, I attended the “expert” panel on CWD presented in Mount Horeb by the DNR. The auditorium was filled with frightened deer hunters, fearing the loss of their main hunt.

There is no cure for prion diseases. Death is imminent after disorientation and body wasting. Learn about a Utah hunter whose death may be attributed to CWD infection.

Diseased elk confined on a farm in Colorado were all killed. The land was poisoned, burned, and left fallow for three years. Then a fresh herd of ungulates was put on the land. They reinfected. Prions live in soil and infect healthy animals. 

So what increases the chances of deer-to-human transmission of CWD? One prime factor is high animal density. Since the DNR under cheerleader Secretary Cathy Stepp favors “growing the herd,” and deer farmers aiming for 175,000 more deer each year, that is a given.

It has been discovered that Wisconsin has a different strain of CWD than the Western states. Transmission of prions to transgenic mice expressing human genes suggests that the species barrier from deer to human is prion-strain dependent and that humans can be more vulnerable to novel prion strains.

Hunters are delivering deer to food pantries for the poor, and much of that is deer sausage. One infected animal could potentially spread disease to many people. Processing plant equipment could be contaminated. 

Back in 2002, Tryg Solberg, chair of the Natural Resources Board said, “There is a lot more risk in game farms than baiting and feeding. … Maybe we should get rid of them. We should do something." Then acting state veterinarian Dr. Bob Ehlenfeldt supported a total ban on baiting and feeding to limit possible spread of brucellosis and bovine tuberculosis as well as CWD.

Ironically, a Journal of Wildlife Diseases article in 2011 said the wolf could provide protection from CWD: “We suggest that as CWD distribution and wolf range overlap in the future, wolf predation may suppress disease emergence or limit prevalence.” However, dogs can be infected with prions — and that makes wolves susceptible.

The Center for Media and Democracy founder John Stauber says, "Every dead deer in the state should be tested, and no deer should be butchered, processed or eaten unless it has been tested free of the disease.”

Human health is dependent on healthy ecosystems. Killing wildlife is potentially deadly to all of us now.

Patricia Randolph of Portage is a longtime activist for wildlife. madravenspeak@gmail.com or www.wiwildlifeethic.org

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  1. reality22
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    reality22 - August 07, 2013 9:47 pm
    What a bigoted comment......
  2. truthbetold
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    truthbetold - July 27, 2013 10:46 pm
    I'm willing to bet rali74 has a "donate now" button that needs pimping...... Look at the bigoted post above! The hate and bigotry oozes from the post. rali74 should be paying for every penny lost to depredation by her false god the wolf. I'm all for having wolves run amok in Dane Co..... there are some liberal judges there that would make excellent depredation material.
  3. Halvie
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    Halvie - July 24, 2013 8:06 am
    Scott walker has an awkward knack for appointing unfocused thumb-twiddlers, who only perk up when members of the nefarious ALEC snap their fingers, and DNR Secretary Cathy Stepp is the worst of the bunch. Has anyone heard a thimbleful of sense emerge from her mouth on this subject? CWD will eventually thin deer herds to the point of extinction if knowledgeable action isn't taken, and in the end may likely devastate the human herd as well. Perhaps selective population control of the citizenry is the ultimate goal of ALEC's elite members, who only dine on fare supplied from privately maintained, sequestered herds and gardens free of Monsanto seed manipulation.
    Thank you for the informative article, Patricia.
    Keep poking us awake with that big stick of yours.
  4. RMEIER
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    RMEIER - July 22, 2013 6:56 pm
    No it was CWD because there was a big news story along with a video of the deer and what to watch for ,I'm no deer expert but when you see an animal that looks on deaths door and falls down and wants to live but can't its not a time for me to investigate any farther,but there are cases of CWD here and the game farms can't trade or sell deer across state lines in states with verified cases of CWD
  5. Madravenspeak
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    Madravenspeak - July 22, 2013 5:07 pm
    Thank you for the additional information, Terry. I am so sorry about your mother. Mine died of pancreatic cancer - another sure killer - though not quite as sure as prion diseases.

    The fact that Wisconsin DNR and legislature still support the existence of 500 deer game farms to grow bigger antlers for insecure men to try to find their manhood and instead put their insecurities on display - the fact that this killing spree seems never-ending - this may be the karmic pandemic that takes all life out.

    We are all connected and bear the results of the cruelty we allow in complicity whether we do the actual killing or not.
  6. flounder
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    flounder - July 22, 2013 4:17 pm
    nice article Patricia et al. for everyone’s records, some science and source reference to show said risk factors for Chronic Wasting Disease CWD transmission to humans and other species as follows. ...

    I have been following faithfully, daily, for 15 years now, the science on the TSE prion mad cow type disease, since loosing my mother to the Heidenhain Variant of Creutzfeldt Jakob disease hvCJD on 12/14/97. I do NOT advertise or make money from this, I just made a promise to mom.

    I have followed what I call the mad cow follies daily ever since at the USDA inc, and I swear, larry curly and mo could have done a better job.

    I have also keenly followed the practice of these high, low fence game farms, shooting pens, antler mills, sperm mills, from state to state.

    I kindly wish to submit this science on the CWD TSE prion disease, and the captive shooting pen industry, and the ramifications there from.

    whether or not you consume meat from cervids or beef, I don’t care, but, the TSE prions and friendly fire i.e. iatrogenic transmission, will be a major risk factor in the years and decades to come.

    IF this is what you call hunting today, count me out.

    while the Texas deer czar dr. dough was off to Wisconsin pushing the privately owned shooting pen industry (livestock cervids industry), Texas fell to CWD, and just reported 4 more CWD postives.

    for your information, I kindly submit the following for record. I have put this updated science on CWD in different blogs, I do NOT advertise or make money, this is for educational use. I just made a promise to mom. ...



    Sunday, July 21, 2013

    As Chronic Wasting Disease CWD rises in deer herd, what about risk for humans?


    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/07/as-chronic-wasting-disease-cwd-rises-in.html








  7. flounder
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    flounder - July 22, 2013 4:14 pm
    nice article Patricia et al. for everyone’s records, some science and source reference to show said risk factors for Chronic Wasting Disease CWD transmission to humans and other species as follows. ...

    I have been following faithfully, daily, for 15 years now, the science on the TSE prion mad cow type disease, since loosing my mother to the Heidenhain Variant of Creutzfeldt Jakob disease hvCJD on 12/14/97. I do NOT advertise or make money from this, I just made a promise to mom.

    I have followed what I call the mad cow follies daily ever since at the USDA inc, and I swear, larry curly and mo could have done a better job.

    I have also keenly followed the practice of these high, low fence game farms, shooting pens, antler mills, sperm mills, from state to state.

    I kindly wish to submit this science on the CWD TSE prion disease, and the captive shooting pen industry, and the ramifications there from.

    whether or not you consume meat from cervids or beef, I don’t care, but, the TSE prions and friendly fire i.e. iatrogenic transmission, will be a major risk factor in the years and decades to come.

    IF this is what you call hunting today, count me out.

    while the Texas deer czar dr. dough was off to Wisconsin pushing the privately owned shooting pen industry (livestock cervids industry), Texas fell to CWD, and just reported 4 more CWD postives.

    for your information, I kindly submit the following for record. I have put this updated science on CWD in different blogs, I do NOT advertise or make money, this is for educational use. I just made a promise to mom. ...



    *** The potential impact of prion diseases on human health was greatly magnified by the recognition that interspecies transfer of BSE to humans by beef ingestion resulted in vCJD. While changes in animal feed constituents and slaughter practices appear to have curtailed vCJD, there is concern that CWD of free-ranging deer and elk in the U.S. might also cross the species barrier. Thus, consuming venison could be a source of human prion disease. Whether BSE and CWD represent interspecies scrapie transfer or are newly arisen prion diseases is unknown. Therefore, the possibility of transmission of prion disease through other food animals cannot be ruled out. There is evidence that vCJD can be transmitted through blood transfusion. There is likely a pool of unknown size of asymptomatic individuals infected with vCJD, and there may be asymptomatic individuals infected with the CWD equivalent. These circumstances represent a potential threat to blood, blood products, and plasma supplies.

    http://cdmrp.army.mil/prevfunded/nprp/NPRP_Summit_Final_Report.pdf



    UPDATED DATA ON 2ND CWD STRAIN

    Wednesday, September 08, 2010

    CWD PRION CONGRESS SEPTEMBER 8-11 2010

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2010/09/cwd-prion-2010.html


    The chances of a person or domestic animal contracting CWD are “extremely remote,” Richards said. The possibility can’t be ruled out, however. “One could look at it like a game of chance,” he explained. “The odds (of infection) increase over time because of repeated exposure. That’s one of the downsides of having CWD in free-ranging herds: We’ve got this infectious agent out there that we can never say never to in terms of (infecting) people and domestic livestock.”

    https://www.avma.org/News/JAVMANews/Pages/121201a.aspx


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    ADAPTATION OF CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE (CWD) INTO HAMSTERS, EVIDENCE OF A WISCONSIN STRAIN OF CWD

    Chad Johnson1, Judd Aiken2,3,4 and Debbie McKenzie4,5 1 Department of Comparative Biosciences, University of Wisconsin, Madison WI, USA 53706 2 Department of Agriculture, Food and Nutritional Sciences, 3 Alberta Veterinary Research Institute, 4.Center for Prions and Protein Folding Diseases, 5 Department of Biological Sciences, University of Alberta, Edmonton AB, Canada T6G 2P5

    The identification and characterization of prion strains is increasingly important for the diagnosis and biological definition of these infectious pathogens. Although well-established in scrapie and, more recently, in BSE, comparatively little is known about the possibility of prion strains in chronic wasting disease (CWD), a disease affecting free ranging and captive cervids, primarily in North America. We have identified prion protein variants in the white-tailed deer population and demonstrated that Prnp genotype affects the susceptibility/disease progression of white-tailed deer to CWD agent. The existence of cervid prion protein variants raises the likelihood of distinct CWD strains. Small rodent models are a useful means of identifying prion strains. We intracerebrally inoculated hamsters with brain homogenates and phosphotungstate concentrated preparations from CWD positive hunter-harvested (Wisconsin CWD endemic area) and experimentally infected deer of known Prnp genotypes. These transmission studies resulted in clinical presentation in primary passage of concentrated CWD prions. Subclinical infection was established with the other primary passages based on the detection of PrPCWD in the brains of hamsters and the successful disease transmission upon second passage. Second and third passage data, when compared to transmission studies using different CWD inocula (Raymond et al., 2007) indicate that the CWD agent present in the Wisconsin white-tailed deer population is different than the strain(s) present in elk, mule-deer and white-tailed deer from the western United States endemic region.

    http://www.istitutoveneto.it/prion_09/Abstracts_09.pdf please see full text ;


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    Sunday, July 21, 2013

    As Chronic Wasting Disease CWD rises in deer herd, what about risk for humans?

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    Sunday, June 09, 2013

    Missouri House forms 13-member Interim Committee on the Cause and Spread of Chronic Wasting Disease CWD

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/06/missouri-house-forms-13-member-interim.html



    Thursday, July 11, 2013

    The Fight Over the Future of Texas Deer, Captive shooting pens, and the CWD TSE prion disease

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-new-hornographers-fight-over-future.html


    Saturday, June 29, 2013

    PENNSYLVANIA CAPTIVE CWD INDEX HERD MATE YELLOW *47 STILL RUNNING LOOSE IN INDIANA, YELLOW NUMBER 2 STILL MISSING, AND OTHERS ON THE RUN STILL IN LOUISIANA

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/06/pennsylvania-captive-cwd-index-herd.html



    Tuesday, May 28, 2013

    Chronic Wasting Disease CWD quarantine Louisiana via CWD index herd Pennsylvania Update May 28, 2013

    6 doe from Pennsylvania CWD index herd still on the loose in Louisiana, quarantine began on October 18, 2012, still ongoing, Lake Charles premises.

    http://www.chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/05/chronic-wasting-disease-cwd-quarantine.html



    Monday, June 24, 2013

    The Effects of Chronic Wasting Disease on the Pennsylvania Cervid Industry Following its Discovery

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-effects-of-chronic-wasting-disease.html

    Thursday, June 20, 2013

    typical, BSE, CWD, Scrapie, Captive Farmed shooting pens (livestock), Wild Cervids, Rectal Mucosa Biopsy 2012 USAHA Proceedings, and CJD TSE prion Update

    http://transmissiblespongiformencephalopathy.blogspot.com/2013/06/atypical-bse-cwd-scrapie-captive-farmed.html



    Wednesday, May 15, 2013

    Intranasal Inoculation of White-Tailed Deer (Odocoileus virginianus) with Lyophilized Chronic Wasting Disease Prion Particulate Complexed to Montmorillonite Clay

    Research Article

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/05/intranasal-inoculation-of-white-tailed.html



    Friday, February 08, 2013

    *** Behavior of Prions in the Environment: Implications for Prion Biology

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/02/behavior-of-prions-in-environment.html



    Friday, November 09, 2012

    *** Chronic Wasting Disease CWD in cervidae and transmission to other species

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/11/chronic-wasting-disease-cwd-in-cervidae.html



    Sunday, November 11, 2012

    *** Susceptibilities of Nonhuman Primates to Chronic Wasting Disease November 2012

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/11/susceptibilities-of-nonhuman-primates.html



    Friday, December 14, 2012

    Susceptibility Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) in wild cervids to Humans 2005 – December 14, 2012

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/12/susceptibility-chronic-wasting-disease.html



    Tuesday, April 16, 2013

    Cervid Industry Unites To Set Direction for CWD Reform and seem to ignore their ignorance and denial in their role in spreading Chronic Wasting Disease

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/04/cervid-industry-unites-to-set-direction.html



    Sunday, July 07, 2013

    Could avian scavengers translocate infectious prions to disease-free areas initiating new foci of chronic wasting disease?

    Prion. 2013 Jul 3;7(4). [Epub ahead of print]

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/07/could-avian-scavengers-translocate.html



    Monday, February 14, 2011

    THE ROLE OF PREDATION IN DISEASE CONTROL: A COMPARISON OF SELECTIVE AND NONSELECTIVE REMOVAL ON PRION DISEASE DYNAMICS IN DEER

    NO, NO, NOT NO, BUT HELL NO !

    Journal of Wildlife Diseases, 47(1), 2011, pp. 78-93 © Wildlife Disease Association 2011

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2011/02/role-of-predation-in-disease-control.html




    Friday, December 14, 2012

    DEFRA U.K. What is the risk of Chronic Wasting Disease CWD being introduced into Great Britain? A Qualitative Risk Assessment October 2012

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    In the USA, under the Food and Drug Administration’s BSE Feed Regulation (21 CFR 589.2000) most material (exceptions include milk, tallow, and gelatin) from deer and elk is prohibited for use in feed for ruminant animals. With regards to feed for non-ruminant animals, under FDA law, CWD positive deer may not be used for any animal feed or feed ingredients. For elk and deer considered at high risk for CWD, the FDA recommends that these animals do not enter the animal feed system. However, this recommendation is guidance and not a requirement by law.

    Animals considered at high risk for CWD include:

    1) animals from areas declared to be endemic for CWD and/or to be CWD eradication zones and

    2) deer and elk that at some time during the 60-month period prior to slaughter were in a captive herd that contained a CWD-positive animal.

    Therefore, in the USA, materials from cervids other than CWD positive animals may be used in animal feed and feed ingredients for non-ruminants.

    The amount of animal PAP that is of deer and/or elk origin imported from the USA to GB can not be determined, however, as it is not specified in TRACES. It may constitute a small percentage of the 8412 kilos of non-fish origin processed animal proteins that were imported from US into GB in 2011.

    Overall, therefore, it is considered there is a __greater than negligible risk___ that (nonruminant) animal feed and pet food containing deer and/or elk protein is imported into GB.

    There is uncertainty associated with this estimate given the lack of data on the amount of deer and/or elk protein possibly being imported in these products.

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    36% in 2007 (Almberg et al., 2011). In such areas, population declines of deer of up to 30 to 50% have been observed (Almberg et al., 2011). In areas of Colorado, the prevalence can be as high as 30% (EFSA, 2011). The clinical signs of CWD in affected adults are weight loss and behavioural changes that can span weeks or months (Williams, 2005). In addition, signs might include excessive salivation, behavioural alterations including a fixed stare and changes in interaction with other animals in the herd, and an altered stance (Williams, 2005). These signs are indistinguishable from cervids experimentally infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE). Given this, if CWD was to be introduced into countries with BSE such as GB, for example, infected deer populations would need to be tested to differentiate if they were infected with CWD or BSE to minimise the risk of BSE entering the human food-chain via affected venison.

    snip...

    The rate of transmission of CWD has been reported to be as high as 30% and can approach 100% among captive animals in endemic areas (Safar et al., 2008).

    snip...

    In summary, in endemic areas, there is a medium probability that the soil and surrounding environment is contaminated with CWD prions and in a bioavailable form. In rural areas where CWD has not been reported and deer are present, there is a greater than negligible risk the soil is contaminated with CWD prion.

    snip...

    In summary, given the volume of tourists, hunters and servicemen moving between GB and North America, the probability of at least one person travelling to/from a CWD affected area and, in doing so, contaminating their clothing, footwear and/or equipment prior to arriving in GB is greater than negligible. For deer hunters, specifically, the risk is likely to be greater given the increased contact with deer and their environment. However, there is significant uncertainty associated with these estimates.

    snip...

    Therefore, it is considered that farmed and park deer may have a higher probability of exposure to CWD transferred to the environment than wild deer given the restricted habitat range and higher frequency of contact with tourists and returning GB residents.

    snip...


    http://www.defra.gov.uk/animal-diseases/files/qra_chronic-wasting-disease-121029.pdf



    SNIP...SEE ;


    Friday, December 14, 2012

    DEFRA U.K. What is the risk of Chronic Wasting Disease CWD being introduced into Great Britain? A Qualitative Risk Assessment October 2012

    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/12/defra-uk-what-is-risk-of-chronic.html




    -------- Original Message --------

    Subject: DOCKET-- 03D-0186 -- FDA Issues Draft Guidance on Use of Material From Deer and Elk in Animal Feed; Availability

    Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:47:37 –0500

    From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr." To: fdadockets@oc.fda.gov

    Greetings FDA,

    i would kindly like to comment on;

    Docket 03D-0186

    FDA Issues Draft Guidance on Use of Material From Deer and Elk in Animal Feed; Availability



    http://madcowfeed.blogspot.com/2008/07/docket-03d-0186-fda-issues-draft.html



    http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/







    kind regard,
    terry

  8. Madravenspeak
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    Madravenspeak - July 21, 2013 11:40 pm
    Will it help if I suffer for the sins of my brothers?
    Their heads are run by ego - Their hearts are made of clay.
    I want a hard commitment from ALL the nation's flock
    to rise above the poisons and work around the clock...excerpt from "Tigger, Tiger in Training - I love to play"
    http://weneedadream.org/whoAre.htm#tigger
  9. pete
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    pete - July 21, 2013 8:04 pm
    you sure it wasn't blue tongue? Deer often seek water and die near it
  10. RMEIER
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    RMEIER - July 21, 2013 5:32 pm
    I have seen deer with CWD and it is one of the most difficult things I have watched,and sad,too,last year the TV station had a video of a deer that was by a pond dying from CWD,for those that havent seen this in action I suggest watching it,there is more video's out there I'm sure,I'll check for the link
  11. Madravenspeak
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    Madravenspeak - July 21, 2013 2:46 pm
    Unfortunately, coyotes, wolves and bears may take the brunt of this experiment because they have to take prey to survive...

    But in this case, the deer hunters seem to prefer to be the guinea pigs. What goes around comes around and their cruelty may play out in devastating karma.
  12. Madravenspeak
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    Madravenspeak - July 21, 2013 2:44 pm
    And the 500 deer farms for growing BIGGER antlers and BIGGER bucks ( just like a car assembly line according to one deer farm profiteer) are accompanied by "game preserves" which are CANNED FENCED hunting provided with tame hand-fed deer to walk out in front of some ego to shoot easily for a man-cave decoration.

    It has been known since before Leopold died in 1948 that wolves are key species - that overcrowding any species ( deer, geese, "game" animals) is prime petri dish for expanding and creating new variations of disease - yes - it is time the public realized they have a sicko DNR creating a sicko environment breeding disease that endangers all of our citizens.
  13. rali74
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    rali74 - July 21, 2013 2:26 pm
    In the warped mindset of the DNR and the killing cartels that they answer to there cannot possibly be deer dying of disease in Wisconsin. Didn't you know that it is the big bad wolf that is responsible for deer dying and they must be eradicated so that the giant deer farm known as Wisconsin can continue to operate? Sure, let's keep decimating the predator populations while at the same time artificially inflating deer population for "hunter opportunity ($$$$$)." Instead of focusing on red herrings like blaming wolves for every problem in the state, the DNR should be looking for ways to stop the spread of this disease before their precious "heritage" ($$$$$) is destroyed. But by all means keep allowing the slob hunting practice of baiting in the north and where that is not allowed just use that little loophole known as "food plots" to keep the disease spreading through the entire herd so some slob can get that "trophy" buck with minimal effort. I am just waiting for the killing cartels and anti-wolf zealots to blame CWD on wolves instead of realizing that the wolf may very well be the tool that keeps this disease in check. But that just might go against the bear hounder/killing cartel propaganda. Cue the DNR apologists...........
  14. Madravenspeak
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    Madravenspeak - July 21, 2013 1:10 pm
    What I actually wrote that was edited down:

    A few things were known. Diseased elk confined on a farm in Colorado were all killed. The land was poisoned, burned, and left fallow for three years. Then a fresh herd of ungulates was put on the land. They reinfected. Prions live in soil and infect clean animals.

    So the “expert” strategy was to kill as many infected animals as possible in Wisconsin, drag their body fluids around the land and create gaps where healthy deer would enter and be exposed to infected soils. More killing is always the option chosen by the DNR killing business – but in this case, it was sure to spread infection, as it has.
  15. Madravenspeak
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    Madravenspeak - July 21, 2013 12:57 pm
    Yes - with such a long incubation period and proof that the prions have mutated from scrapie in sheep to mad cow in cattle, to Chronic Wasting Disease in deer - and the rise of Alzheimers and the well-known zoonotic disease, AIDS and its cost and devastation, prion diseases could well be the next pandemic.

    And not just to humans - but to all wildlife and life on earth. Explore the links - for any human who thinks beyond the immediate present, it is a frightening development and one that needs more research, not less.

    It is time that Wisconsin's state agency either be dismantled or take the precautionary principle on CWD and the massive destruction of other species, perpetrated by an agency out of control in the bloody hands of special interests.

    It is putting all of us and all life at risk not to expand prion research seriously and urgently.
  16. Madravenspeak
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    Madravenspeak - July 21, 2013 12:45 pm
    Even Louisiana, which usually joins Mississippi in being the least educated state in the country, has banned deer meat from homeless shelters and treated deer meat as a toxic substance, dangerous to human health.

    Louisiana Says Homeless Can’t Eat Deer Meat
    http://townhall.com/columnists/toddstarnes/2013/02/25/louisiana-says-homeless-cant-eat-deer-meat-n1519865

    That law has hunters across the Sportsman’s Paradise outraged after health officials ordered a rescue mission to destroy $8,000 worth of deer meat because venison is not allowed to be served in homeless shelters.

    The Dept. of Health and Hospitals ordered the staff at the Shreveport-Bossier Rescue Mission to throw 1,600 pounds of donated venison in garbage bins – and then ordered then to douse the meat with Clorox – so other animals would not eat the meat.

    “Deer meat is not permitted to be served in a shelter, restaurant or any other public eating establishment in Louisiana,” a Health Dept. official told me. “While we applaud the good intentions of the hunters who donated this meat, we must protect the people who eat at the Rescue Mission, and we cannot allow a potentially serious health threat to endanger the public.”................

    “They actually took it out to the dumpsters, split the packages open and poured Clorox on it,” Martin told me.
  17. Shear Essence Alpacas
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    Shear Essence Alpacas - July 21, 2013 12:36 pm
    Well done Patricia. Excellent sources and well-put together. When one considers all the wildlife that eats off a dead carcass the implications are just magnified in addition to the soil it sits on.....It doesn't seem as though the hunting community is doing anything about this? Wisconsin's entire ecosystem is at risk and there is no leadership.
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