Godless UW-Madison students and others will march up State Street to the state Capitol Saturday in what organizers are calling an "Atheist Pride Parade."

Hundreds are expected to take part, said Chris Calvey, executive director of Atheists, Humanists and Agnostics, the UW-Madison student organization sponsoring the event. He thinks it could be the first event of its kind in the country. He has yet to find any mention of others through Internet searches.

The parade will begin at the base of State Street about 3 p.m. "We'll be hard to miss," promises Calvey. The parade will end with a rally at the Capitol.

The goal is to improve the public perception of atheism, Calvey said. “We aren't interested in attacking anyone; rather, the parade is a celebration of our own identity. We want to show that atheists come from all walks of life, and that we are nothing to be afraid of.”

The pride parade coincides with the student group’s second annual “Freethought Festival.” The festival runs Friday through Sunday in the Lowell Center on the UW-Madison campus. Funded by a $12,600 grant from the university, the event is free and open to the public. The conference is comprised of three sessions, each featuring several speakers presenting talks on a similar theme.

For information on the Freethought Festival, go here.

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Cheezer
Cheezer

Madison

Does the Sophmoric behaviour come naturally, or does it take some effort?

jaymchue
jaymchue

I just don't see the sense in people being proud of their belief that 90% of the population in the world is mentally ill.

jaymchue
jaymchue

lol! People marching in support of nothing and their belief that no one and nothing produced everything in the entire universe "just because." (Doubt me? Read Stephen Hawking's most recent book.)

ButSiriuslyFolks
ButSiriuslyFolks

I do think the story is far more interesting than the comment vitriol, for certain.

There were some relative questions about electing an "atheist" candidate earlier. My first inclination is that, by definition, atheism isn't a belief IN something, but rather a choice NOT to believe something. Generally speaking, its a very passive state of being, and not something you would drive as an election platform.

Which, to me, makes the idea of a "pride parade" a conundrum of sorts. You have pride in not believing in something? Would seem to make more sense to call it an "Evolutionist Pride Parade" or a "Humanist Pride Parade", as it would give at least some credence to what the pride is actually IN.

Sorry. Just a bit of random thoughtfulness. Please resume your partisan bickering.

RichardSRussell
RichardSRussell

"My first inclination is that, by definition, atheism isn't a belief IN something, but rather a choice NOT to believe something."

Not quite. You're assuming that a person has been presented with such a choice and has consciously refused to make it. But atheism is simply the state of being without god belief, literally "a-" (without) "-theos-" (god) "-ism" (belief). It's an observation about a condition and makes no judgment as to how that condition arose. For instance, all babies are born without beliefs of any kind, including god beliefs; thus all babies are born atheists. It takes a little while before the indoctrination sets in, and maybe at some future time the indoctrinee will be confronted with the choice "Do you really believe the invisible sky daddy really exists?", but until then it's not really a conscious choice, it's just what you've learned.

FWIW, by far the largest single bloc of atheists in the world — about a billion Chinese — never made a conscious choice at all, because they've never been presented with the idea in the 1st place. Nonetheless, being without god belief (because they've never heard of the idea), they are still, by definition, atheists.

ButSiriuslyFolks
ButSiriuslyFolks

Thanks, Richard.

I'm not saying that atheists don't have a belief/value system ,especially in Madison, where it seems there are several bonded organizations that are there to support each other.

My thought process was triggered when someone mentioned elections and candidacy. For example, when people see Rick Santorum is Catholic, not only can they identify with his belief system, they can also extrapolate some of his positions on policy. Same with Mitt Romney, and even Obama had to establish a "belief system" in the eyes of his voters.

One of the most vitriolic right-wing friends I have on Facebook also is an unabashed atheist. My point is that if an atheist were to campaign on being an atheist, I'm not sure what that means in the eyes of most voters, and I think most would shy away from it for that reason.

Does it mean "I am anti-Evangelical, completely support separation of church and state, and support Abortion while against birth control"? Or does it mean "I am a free agent on all policies because I don't have a religious belief system governing my decisions"?

The American voter is a very skittish bunch. They like knowing who they are voting for, and establishment of their personal belief system seems to give them a sense of security, regardless of party.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

Since faith in God has been associated with lower stress and better physical health, why doesn't Scott Walker fine all atheist state workers an extra $50 in health insurance costs? If it works to stop smokers it ought to work to make believers out of atheists. The former atheists can sign statements that they now have a deep and abiding faith in God, or if at least one of many gods. I'm sure this would suit the "Freedom From Religion" group since workers could at least have a choice of gods.

Mr_Deeks
Mr_Deeks

Fiction! Moronic Post!

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....born of religion, as are many other moronic ideals.

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"Since faith in God has been associated with lower stress and better physical health"

My pet dog accomplishes the same thing. All this w/o the need to kill in his name!

Cornelius Gotchberg
Cornelius Gotchberg

@Shake;

C'mon; in a perfect Lefty world, the commandment you'd first purge would be the one that addresses "Thou shalt not *covet*;" am I right?

Why? it would really throw a crimp into promoting the old Lefty fallback standards of "class envy" & "wealth redistribution."

"Lefty thinks incompetence is the same thing as sincerity." The Gotch

The Gotch

Shake
Shake

I'd reply but you're having such a good time arguing with yourself

Keep that word count up! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ Cornelius Gotchberg - actually only about 10% of the population are lefties. The rest are right handed or ambidextrous. Those ambidextrous types are the "one percent" everyone has been protesting about, as if they've got the whole world in their hands.

FACT: If you can write equally well with either hand, then you are the one percent. Even among the small population of ‘multi-handed’ individuals, very few experience equal ease and skill with both hands. In comparison, around 10% of people are lefties.

Read the full text here: http://mentalfloss.com/article/30667/11-facts-about-ambidextrous#ixzz2N0DD38Mn

Cornelius Gotchberg
Cornelius Gotchberg

@Fact or Fiction;

The 'Ambidextrous Defamation League' may want a word regarding your casting them as "1 %ers." If you're not familiar with who runs that organization, I assure you it's not the Boy Scouts.

FACT: 17 of the last 25 years the Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America, a full 2/3, has been a Lefty. And all three 1992 candidates (Bush, Clinton, & Perot) as well. By your definition, leastways. I'm sensing a trend; you?

FACT: Please note that I, without fail, always capitalize Lefty/Lefties. My way of shining a light on what ought really be important...to all of us!

The Gotch

Mr_Deeks
Mr_Deeks

Mock the Gotch...water off a ducks back

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Lets also not forget that only lefties are in their right minds.

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

On the topic of bigotry; I've heard it said straight from a "devout" and very outspoken atheist...

"...there is no God, but there are still atheists. That's because atheists are people who don't believe in God. ...If there were no religionists, there'd be no atheists... Atheists exist solely to counter the ignorant superstition of religious believers. If they'd go away, we would too, and gladly!"

According to the above argument, atheists do not believe God exists and atheists only exist because there are those that do believe God exists; therefore, the only reason atheists exist is to oppose the actual individuals that believe God exists. What do you call a group of people who's only purpose is to oppose another group of people (consider this phrase "If there were no blacks, there'd be no KKK".) you call them bigots, among other words. Since we all know that being bigoted is: to be obstinately convinced of the superiority or correctness of one's own opinions and prejudiced against those who hold different opinions; expressing or characterized by prejudice and intolerance - there is no better word that properly defines what an atheist is, it IS their choice.

I believe God exists, I do not oppose anyone for not believing God exists, it's their individual choice. Atheists routinely do everything they can to suppress the rights of those that choose to believe in God, I do absolutely nothing to suppress their lack of belief or force them in any way to believe the way I do. In this regard, exactly who has the moral high ground?

This is a free country, free to believe in God or not, free to be tolerant of others beliefs or not. Many atheists and believers make a choice to be intolerant of others beliefs, I choose otherwise. What is your choice?

As for the parade; I really don't care one bit if they have their parade, as I said below, I won't attend simply because I don't attend ANY parades. I'll repeat; I do think those that are actually participating in any pride parades (of any kind) should walk down the street with one of their arms reaching over their shoulder pompously patting themself on the back and the other should be patting the person walking beside them on the back.

Cornelius Gotchberg
Cornelius Gotchberg

@AllAmerican11B;

Oy Vey! I've just realized that I'm bigoted against Lefties; what a revoltin' development.

Seein' as I'm all in:
*A Lefty is someone that will lay down YOUR life for his country.
*They call it the "New Left" because it's so far from being right.
*A Lefty is a person who will make waves and then try to make you think he's the only one that can save the ship.
*Lefties can understand everything but people who don't understand them.
*A Lefty is a person whose interests aren't at stake at the moment.

The Gotch

Shake
Shake

That's a lovely strawman you've constructed there.

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

Shake,
"That's a lovely strawman you've constructed there."

In your comment below you quoted
"Fascism is a religious concept. Benito Mussolini"

Those who throw stones should not live in glass houses!
As usual, you are being hypocritical.

Shake
Shake

You use some bogus quote from some un-named "atheist" to paint all atheists as bigots an I"M a hypocrite?

And my quote was a response to Scratch's quote. You can find a quote for all occasions.

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

Shake - 15 minutes ago
"You use some bogus quote from some un-named "atheist" to paint all atheists as bigots an I'M a hypocrite?"

You have read my comments around here, you should have known better than to make such a nonsense comment.

It's not a bogus quote, the quote originated on this website from RichardSRussell in THIS THREAD and has been referred to a few times in discussion about atheists. Richard is the one that is painting all atheists the same way NOT me, I am just the one bring up HIS point again. You don't like the point, that's just tough. You want to attack someone as bogus for that quote then why don't you sling that mud at Richard S Russell for HIS words.

By the way, YES you are most definitely a hypocrite.

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

Shake,
"And my quote was a response to Scratch's quote. You can find a quote for all occasions."

Typical Shake nonsense! Faced with an undeniable fact that you are being hypocritical and you try and justify your comment based on what someone else said. It's NEVER you who is wrong, is it?

It wasn't me, look... squirrel!

Cornelius Gotchberg
Cornelius Gotchberg

@AllAmerican11B;

Haven't you gotten the memo; Lefty doesn't acknowledge hypocrisy because it falls under the umbrella of moral relativism. It's also an acceptable selection from the Lefty World View Cafeteria because it's for the 'greater good.'

Greater good as defined by Lefty, that is, and its most unapologetic practitioner, @Shake. That guy; what a hoot! Scritch, Scratch, Glitch, ad nauseum. Bet you wish you had a handle he could twist into a something real, real funny.

To paraphrase the late, great William F. Buckley, Jr., I would like to take him seriously but to do so would affront his intelligence.

The Gotch

RichardSRussell
RichardSRussell

The quotation was from me. I stand by it. It has nothing whatever to do with whether religion is or should be subject to criticism. It speaks only to the reason why atheism exists: because religion is a destructive influence in the world.

Yosemite Sam and Elmer Fudd don't exist any more than God does, but you don't see any mass movements organized to deny their existence. That's because nobody has organized pogroms, torture, mass extermination, systematic misogyny, child exploitation, etc. in the name of Yosemite Sam or Elmer Fudd.

Pointing out those very real and well documented horrors — committed as a result of religious motivations — does not constitute bigotry against religion, any more than pointing out that you beat your wife on a regular basis constitutes bigotry against you. If it happens to be true, it constitutes valid criticism.

madconservative
madconservative

Whatever.....

PosterX
PosterX

Baby Jesus will not be pleased...

Mr_Deeks
Mr_Deeks

God will rain on your parade, just watch and see!

RichardSRussell
RichardSRussell

If God really controlled the weather, he'd strike us all down with thunderbolts.

Zeus would've.

Mr_Deeks
Mr_Deeks

He allows free will, Richard. You make the choice.

RichardSRussell
RichardSRussell

So which is it, he allows free will or he rains on our parade? You've made both claims. Which one do you really believe?

I know, I know. You'll wait till tomoro to see if the second one comes true. This is, of course, the exact same thing that we atheists do, except without all the "god" malarkey.

To really get a sense of your insight into God's will, take a crack at predicting the daily high, low, and precipitation for nextyear's Freethot Festival, instead of one where "God's will" can be interpreted by looking at the NWS website the day before the event. I've got another hundred bux says you get it wrong.

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Does god allow free will in all cases or just where you deem it appropriate.

Mr_Deeks
Mr_Deeks

He allows free will for each of us to determine our actions or belief system. Where the weather is concerned he maintains full control. Since He does not confide in me directly, I will not take you up on the sucker bet. Fool me once...

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"Where the weather is concerned he maintains full control. "

Well then, the deeper your faith the easier to confound you with recitation of simple weather data.

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It rained when I cast my vote for Obama. This is really testing my faith.

Mr_Deeks
Mr_Deeks

I respect your right to have your parade and, as expected, I will not be attending. I will refrain from crowding the sidelines and taunting you, mocking you, spitting on you. I won't be giving you the Blue Fist treatment , carrying hate-filled signs and filling my face with red rage, screaming epithets! I won't do to what you have done to me at our Right to Life or Public Prayer gatherings. Why, you ask? The Golden Rule is the answer. It just ain't Chistian, Man, and I live my faith. You live in the belief that sin does not exist because sin is an act against religious moral beliefs. You have no religious beliefs, hence no constraints on your behavior , the norms of which are established by something you turn away from and mock.

No religion, no concept of sin, so the only consequences for immorality or anti-social behavior are those enforced by the State. Everything else is fair game. THAT is why people are afraid of you.

Good point ther, Gotch

SammyJean
SammyJean

If the only reason you constrain your behavior is because you believe that a god told you to, than please seek help. This is a reason to be afraid of people like you.

Mr_Deeks
Mr_Deeks

Constraint is the normal, universal approach to healthy human relationships. Unless, of course, you have no moral code; the hallmark of atheism.

RichardSRussell
RichardSRussell

Wrong. Atheists have a choice of moral codes. Indeed, it's a veritable buffet. We can pick and choose from among various values and precepts that we find congenial or sensible. We don't have one dictated to us like you poor, unfortunate religious people do.

Badger08
Badger08

Well said and very true Cornelius!

Shake
Shake

As an atheist I find the headline of this story a little insulting.

Cornelius Gotchberg
Cornelius Gotchberg

@Shake;

Full disclosure; I'm a devout agnostic.And I've not completely accepted the teachings of the Gospel of the Cyclistocracy.

You're a little insulted? We'll send the WWAAAMBULANCE right out.

You're a self-professed high-level thinker who's on record as saying you're "intolerant of intolerance" when nothing could be further from the truth. You & your heathen compadres (@Coinneach & @RichardSRussell) regularly spew your anti-religious bigotry in these forums with impunity. The ludicrously craven hypocrisy of it is you don't even see it as intolerance. What a gosh-darn kneeslapper!

Now, I realize that your private reality is emotionally defended; a belief system one might opine. High-level-thinkers need not defend their positions; those positions are held steadfast and beyond reproach with a secular Holier-than-thou zeal.

Your flight-of-fancy moral superiority is held up and justified by feeling wanton contempt rather than by reason. Funny thing is you don't even realize it, and even if you do, you won't acknowledge it

You claim objectivity, but that implies there may be other answers, a higher truth and/or meaning than your belief system supports. Embracing objectivity suggests that while you may not be wrong, per se, you're certainly not yet 'right.' Or just not yet fully 'evolved;' you know...like the CHOSEN ONE. No wonder you're confused.

"The welfare of Humanity is always the alibi of Tyrants." A. Camus

The Gotch

RichardSRussell
RichardSRussell

"You & your heathen compadres (@Coinneach & @RichardSRussell) regularly spew your anti-religious bigotry in these forums with impunity."

It's only bigotry if it's baseless.

FWIW, I don't like child molestation or cheating at cards, either. Does that make me a bigot in THOSE areas?

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

RichardSRussell,
"It's only bigotry if it's baseless."

That sir is an arrogant lie!

Racists in our shameful history could have, and probably did, used the exact same phrase to justify acting on their bigotry.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ RichardSRussell's "It's only bigotry if it's baseless".
I have no idea why you would say that. The best lies contain a small truth. And the most convincing forms of bigotry are big lies mixed with a bit of truth.

RichardSRussell
RichardSRussell

To AllAmerican (below):

Perhaps you'd be able to see the situation a little more clearly if you used another common term for bigotry: "prejudice" — from the terms "pre-" (before) and "-judex" (judge). Prejudice (bigotry) is arriving at a judgment before you have the facts, based on irrelevancies like skin color or religion. For instance, it's prejudicial to assume that all Muslims are terrorists. It's not prejudicial to assume that all Muslims believe in Allah; it's part of the definition. That's not a pre-judgment, that's a post-judgment (IE, based on facts).

And those sample statements are about individuals. If you'll go back and look at the statements I made (quoted above), you'll see that they're not about persons but about religious institutions and belief systems, based on the well documented history and public pronouncements of those religions themselves. Often enuf, individuals are able to rise above the religious indoctrination that has poisoned their brains, which is why I try not to generalize about people. There's still hope for many of them.

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

@Richard (below):
Thanks for the unneeded comprehension lesson. Perhaps you'd be able to see the situation a little more clearly if you read and understood the common definition for the word bigotry:

"To be obstinately convinced of the superiority or correctness of one's own opinions and prejudiced against those who hold different opinions; expressing or characterized by prejudice and intolerance."

Exactly what part of that common definition does not fit within your interruption of what an atheist is? Based on your words alone, there still is no better word that properly defines what an atheist is.

I have either said or alluded to in the past that I have respect for your opinions on most things whether I agree with all of them or not; however, when anything even remotely related to the belief in God comes up you go straight over the deep end into emotion. Your comment above ”It's only bigotry if it's baseless.” is a perfect example of that; it was arrogant and it is a lie, don't try and justify it, accept it and move on.

Shake
Shake

Well there Scritch, I really don't remember proclaiming myself a "high-level-thinker" or ever saying that I was "intolerant of intolerance" but then I really don't pay much attention to what ever I post here. But I do admit to a feeling of "wanton contempt" so there is that.
I also don't believe that I have ever claimed objectivity, for I am shamelessly biased.
On the other hand, I am glad that you are still being paid by the word. Honest work is hard to find.

Fascism is a religious concept.
Benito Mussolini

Cornelius Gotchberg
Cornelius Gotchberg

@Shake;

"...I don't pay much attention to what ever I post here." Rare candor that answers a lot of burning questions.

And here I thought claiming 'high-level-thinker' status was a required selection from the Lefty World View Cafeteria. Fear not; your hi-freakinl-arious plays on my commenting handle serve to dispel that.

"Never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person." The Gotch

The Gotch

Shake
Shake

Atheists are the only group left in America where it is fully acceptable to discriminate against them. Every court, every legislative body, is a huge FU to non-believers. Laws are constantly passed that reflect christer fairy tales and we're bound by them. Courts all over the US want to post the Ten Commandments as if it were part of our law. Surveys show that an atheist is less likely to get elected to office than a black, Hispanic, LGBT, or Muslim.

tomtom
tomtom

try to get a date on a dating site if you list yourself as an atheist - especially in the deep south

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ tomtom, seriously have you tried and been rejected on deep south dating sites? Maybe it was because you listed yourself as "Democratic" for political affiliation. Maybe it was because you don't have a car jacked up out front. Maybe it was because you didn't list country music as your favorite. Maybe you forgot to include your picture on the site. If you really want a southern girl though, don't give up. Try changing your religious affiliation to "seeking". I hope my tips help.

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

Shake,
Just to be clear, these are part of the "christer fairy tales" too:

You shall not murder.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Are you actually suggesting that we eliminate laws regarding these things because they are part of the Ten Commandments just because there are those out there that choose not to believe in God?

FTR, I don't care one way or the other if the Ten Commandments are displayed anywhere; not displaying them does not mean that they do not exist.

Shake
Shake

Keep the Sabbath holy.
No other god before me.

Should these be part of law?
Just because the ten commandments are against murder and theft does not mean that's why they are illegal.
Insane anti women abortion laws are a perfect example of the domination of christer influence.

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

Shake,
"Keep the Sabbath holy. No other god before me. Should these be part of law?"

Well, genius, you are insinuating that just because the Ten Commandments is posted somewhere that everything within the Ten Commandments will eventually become "legal" laws and not just religious laws, that is a false insinuation. How long have Bibles been used in court rooms for people to put their hand on and swear an oath? The Bible contains the Ten Commandments and has been part of the legal system for longer than any of us have been living and those things you mentioned have NOT become "legal" laws.

FWIW, I believe that making the particular things you mentioned above into "legal" laws would be unconstitutional.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ Shake - come on, really? You really think the United States is at risk of becoming a theocracy? About as likely as becoming a division of ABC news with Disney World as our capital.

Cornelius Gotchberg
Cornelius Gotchberg

@Shake;

I don't discriminate against them, or any other group really. I'm an 'equal-opportunity' skewerer.

Lefties should heed the codicil known as the "11th" commandment:

"Thou shall not put thy rod in thy staff."

Imagine the political landscape today had Bill Clinton & Johnny Edwards observed it. Perhaps they were too preoccupied breaking all the others?

"We confess to little faults only to persuade ourselves that we have no great ones." F. de La Rochefoucauld

The Gotch

Shake
Shake

Imagine the political landscape today had Bill Clinton & Johnny Edwards observed it.

Right, Bill Clinton would have never been thrown out of office during his failed Presidency. Oh, wait.........

Cornelius Gotchberg
Cornelius Gotchberg

@Shake; When you're right you're right!

Many couple Atheism with Moral Relativism, another required selection from the Lefty World View Cafeteria.

Moral Relativism allowed Clinton to perjure himself, avoid Impeachment and retain his law license. Oh, wait...

The Gotch

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

Shake, the only reason surveys show an atheist is "less likely to get elected" than other minorities is that there has not been a "get out the vote" movement for atheists yet. We need to go door to door recruiting atheists to vote. If we can just get them to BELIEVE that their vote could help remove Patience Roggensack from the SUPREME court. But so many of they just shut their doors saying "I don't believe in ANY supreme judge".

Coinneach
Coinneach

I am definitely an atheist but I have a hard time getting involved with events like this parade. For one thing, I am not a joiner. Secondly, my atheism isn't something that defines me any more than my lack of belief in the tooth fairy. We might as well have a pride parade for people who don't believe in UFO abductions. I guess I can understand the urge to conduct outreach, but in my opinion it is more effective for atheists to be frank, when asked, about their lack of belief. If more non-believers come out to friends and family, we will slowly gain acceptance in the same way LGBT folks have in recent years. It is harder to hate and fear a category of people when you number among them people you care about.

burne
burne

The difference between atheism and non-belief in tooth fairies is that the belief in tooth fairies doesn't dominate nearly every aspect of our culture. My atheism defines me because it sets me apart from the majority of Americans, and it puts me at odds with many of the societal norms that are brought about by religion. Having a parade for people who don't believe in UFO abductions wouldn't be bringing something new to the eyes of the general public. The idea of peaceful, friendly, loving atheists IS something that many, many religious people are sheltered from. That's why it is important to many of us.

Events like this are exactly to encourage people to come out to friends and family, and to the public. When you see that there are normal people out there, living normal lives, it makes the whole idea of being an out atheist much more appealing. I imagine that's the general idea of having a gay pride parade, as well.

Coinneach
Coinneach

Fair points, burne. I just have a weird sort of resistance to anything that tries to define non-belief as a sort of "movement." That resistance may be unjustified. After all, I have it easy here in Madison where there are many fewer societal and economic consequences for unbelief compared to many places in the country. To beat up on myself a little bit more, it is like a gay person being unconcerned about the consequences of being gay because he/she lives in a city where it is more accepted. That doesn't lessen the plight of people who are discriminated against, ostracized by family, and sometimes lose their jobs because of their non-belief.

I can support the parade, even if I have a hard time taking part.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ Coineach: How do you know you're not a closeted Christian, just talking the atheist line because you don't want to admit that you read your Bible everday? Just because you put a Richard Dawkins book cover over your Bible that doesn't mean everyone is fooled, and you can't fool yourself now can you.

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

Pride is one of the seven capital vices, better known as the seven deadly sins. The others are wrath, greed, sloth, lust, envy, and gluttony. Pride is recognized by many as being the worst in the list. In my humble opinion, pride is the hardest in the list to "control" especially in and our society that seems to feed individuals that openly exhibit their pride, sometimes that feeding is negative reenforcement and sometimes it is positive reenforcement. Please identify yourself if you have never been proud of yourself for one reason or another.

I acknowledge that I am proud of my military service and that pride sometimes gets in the way and can cause problems. When I let go of that pride, problems associated with it generally go away too.

I don't attend "pride" parades, in fact I don't attend any parades at all.

SIDE NOTE: I think those that are actually participating in pride parades should walk down the street with one of their arms reaching over their shoulder pompously patting them self on the back and the other should be patting the person walking beside them on the back.

davea
davea

Thank you staying in your own little world!

AllAmerican11B
AllAmerican11B

I can only assume that that was some kind of insult because it has absolutely no meaning whatsoever in relation to what I said. You want to elaborate and explain what it is you are trying to say or do you want to just leave it as a nonsense comment?

Shake
Shake

Possibly the suggestion that atheists should care what you think is a sin?

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ AllAmerican11B's "SIDE NOTE: I think those that are actually participating in pride parades should walk down the street with one of their arms reaching over their shoulder pompously patting them self on the back and the other should be patting the person walking beside them on the back.

No, that would only draw attention to themselves, and that last thing marchers in a pride parade want is attention.

Acapitalidea
Acapitalidea

Calvery says they are not interested in attacking anyone. That can only mean that hate group the freedom from religion foundation won't be attending.

Shake
Shake

Darn those FFRFers from thinking they could protect the rights of Americans.Who do they think they are?

Acapitalidea
Acapitalidea

Thank God for the NRA, ACLU and FFRF. We are so blessed they are taking care of our rights.

array1
array1

What kind of gun would jesus use?

deezus
deezus

Pride parades are so pathetic and selfish. What makes anyone think that anyone cares what they are proud of?

Shake
Shake

Just like those uppity Blacks thinking they could cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge.

deezus
deezus

Comparing a civil rights march to a pride parade is laughable at best.

Shake
Shake

Only to the bigots.

burne
burne

Online comment forums are so pathetic and selfish. What makes you think anyone cares what you think?

deezus
deezus

You seem to have cared enough to reply to my comment, oops ;)

burne
burne

And you seem to care enough to rage about the parade online... We don't seem to be getting anywhere.

jaymchue
jaymchue

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