A trio of high-profile UW-Madison professors went public Wednesday with concerns about President Barack Obama's planned Thursday campaign rally, saying students who want to attend are unfairly being required to supply a phone number and email address to the campaign, even having to click "I'm In" to get a free ticket at the campaign's website.

"If you want to go to this hugely important and interesting event you have to register with the campaign," said political science professor Donald Downs. "That raises questions."

Downs was joined by law professor Ann Althouse and political science professor Ken Mayer in raising concerns. Mayer sent a letter outlining four concerns to university administrators on Wednesday. Althouse later shared it with instapundit.com, a conservative-leaning blog run by a Texas law professor.

Vince Sweeney, vice chancellor for university relations, said the university takes the concerns seriously and will respond formally but hadn't done so as of Wednesday night. In linking to the Obama campaign's registration site on the university's website, the university sought to provide as much information as possible to interested attendees, he said.

"We don't manage the (Obama) link, we're not collecting that information, and ultimately if it's a problem for those wishing to attend, it's an individual decision" whether or not to provide an email address and phone number, he said.

Sweeney said the campaign approached the university about holding the event at Bascom Hill, and the university decided it could make the site work, noting there are advantages for the university in showcasing a central attraction on campus. Obama also visited campus in 2010, that time holding a campaign rally across the street at Library Mall.

Obama's campaign will pay UW-Madison $15,000 for Thursday's rally, an increase of $4,500 from the president's last campaign stop at the university, Sweeney said. The university also will bill the campaign for other expenses related to the visit such as setup and equipment. For Obama's last visit, those expenses came to about $2,000, Sweeney said.

Police and other public safety costs will be borne by taxpayers. For the 2010 visit, those costs added up to about $260,000.

In his letter, Mayer criticized the location.

"It hardly seems appropriate to shut the central campus down for an entire day, closing offices and seriously disrupting our mission," he wrote. "I have several colleagues who had scheduled exams for Thursday. Surely there were other venues that would pose less disturbance."

University staffers in buildings shut down by Thursday's event were encouraged by administrators to take a vacation or personal day, rearrange their hours before and after Thursday to make up for lost hours or work from home or a different location, Sweeney said.

"This is what pushed me into the seriously annoyed category," Mayer wrote. "The UW is penalizing staff (or, at a minimum, dramatically inconveniencing them) for an event that they had no say in organizing or scheduling."

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Oscar
Oscar

This is not just some candidate for public office. Its the President. I'm sure that all the attendees names were run through some kind of security database. Of course, I do have to admit that I received begging e-mails quickly after filing for my tickets. The hypocrites that dog Obama in this forum seem to forget how much gw bush buried us financially. They also forget that he did not fully pay for his campaign appearances either. I was disappointed that 6,000 folks were turned away. There was some kind of emphasis on having students there, so my chances to get a ticket withered. I see what the professors are trying to say. This type of event was started by republicans trying to eliminate having protestors at their events. Democracy seems to be going out the window. Go Obama!

dandy
dandy

I simply cannot understand why college or university students choose to back Obama. Do they not realize that this Socialistic Liberal is spending this country to death; and, if he is re-elected, more and more will be added to the trillions of dollars he has already spent and/or wasted on foolishness. Further, do they not realized that by so doing, they are mortgaging their futures as well as the futures of their children, grand children, and yes, even their great grand children.
Their rationale for backing this spendthrift simply escapes me. What reason(s) could they possibly have for such blind stupidity. They are supposed to be our leaders of the future, but the way things are going, there will be no future to lead.

daycd
daycd

Spending at a rate higher than Bush?

Word
Word

Some students were there as backers, some were there because it was an opportunity they may not have again. Some chose not to go at all.

AndyMatts
AndyMatts

I can understand why you can't understand -

As college students, they probably have had classes where they learn what words like "socialist" actually mean. Clearly you don't know that. I'm guessing that many have a grasp of the actual issues and basic cause and effect that you don't.

If there's a problem here, it's probably not with the students.

SDAim
SDAim

Geezus, Larry McLane -- put a sock in it already! And shame on these three professors for making such a stink over this . . . get over yourselves (and your own politics) and realize this was a chance for students and others to be part of history. So you were inconvenienced for a few hours, big effing deal. Yeah, you can guarantee that if the shoe were on the other foot and this was a Repugnant -- I mean "Republican" speaking, you wouldn't be complaining. Oh, wait -- a Republican never would have been able to draw a crowd like this at a University where intelligent people tend to gather.

Word
Word

You are making some huge assumptions, and as the saying goes "when you assume...."
There are plenty of people who support Obama, who voted for him in 2008 and will again in 2012, who were outraged by the disruption. It was not 'a few hours.' It was an entire working day plus the day before when they were setting up sound equipment and using it at bone jarring levels.

The annoyance is at least as much with the people in university administration who failed to direct the Obama campaign to Camp Randall or the Kohl Center, which would have accommodated the crowds, already have strong security systems in place, and didn't require students to miss classes or employees to miss work. To shut down classes and all functions for all or part of several major university buildings for that amount of time was just plain dumb no matter how publicity hungry campus leadership may be.

To shut down classes and all functions for all or part of several major buildings with less than 3 days' notice was completely irresponsible. Especially when it was a campaign appearance and not a policy speech. Most campus employees did not have the details on the visit or what would be closed until Tuesday afternoon, leaving people to scramble to find ways to minimize damage caused by the unexpected need to move classes with hundreds of students, reschedule tests, and, for employees, try to figure out what if any part of the job could be done elsewhere.

Yet another blow for morale.

array1
array1

I think it a safe bet that the vast majority of attendees and UW associates found the presidents visit was a boost for morale. No shocker the limited notice of a visit from any president but you seem to be taken aback by it.

Don Lond
Don Lond

As Christ asked the cured leper, "But where are the others?"
But, then, He was a real Messiah.

Boycottman
Boycottman

An honor for the UW-Madison and an invaluable experience for students would be to have Barack Obama as President of the United States coming to campus not on election time to have an exchange of ideas with students on his views on higher education. Hosting Barack Obama on campus not as President, but as a candidate running for reelection in a partisan political rally is neither a presidential visit to UW-Madison nor an educational experience. It is what it is: an act of political propaganda intended to get an immediate benefit for a candidate which had an enormous appeal to those members of the campus/Madison/Dane County community who support Barack Obama, and not so much for those who don't. That is what it was and that is what UW-Madison leadership approved. Since they decided to host that kind of event, they should have also given clear instructions as to what was expected from UW workers and students that day. But, of course, they didn't, because that could get them into trouble. So they hid and placed all burden of responsibility as to what to do on their employees --the same way as they didn't have any problems placing all the burden of Walker's budget cuts on their employees. This is the kind of leadership UW-Madison has had for a while.

Word
Word

Well said. Captured a LOT of the negative reaction.

qpwoeiruty
qpwoeiruty

Why does the tax payer have to foot the $260,000 for police and security? Obama comes into town and disrupts the school and takes our money.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

Why are people surprised at this? Obama has shown no gratitude or courtesy to anyone that has hosted his events or appearances. Just look at the string of municipalities left holding the bag for police overtime and business impacted by street closures. That inconsiderate jerk even closed down LAX just so he could have a rally in town.

Yeah...so many smart but dumb people at UW.

array1
array1

If you didn't notice tens of thousands welcomed the president. If you say the president showed no gratitude then you obviously didn't hear him talk.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

If you didn't notice, I wasn't talking about him saying thank you for coming, bur reimbursing the costs of shutting down the campus, cancelling classes, polices services, etc.

Obama has screwed over many municipalities, leaving them to suck up the costs of his appearances.

AndyMatts
AndyMatts

And this differs from how presidential visits from non-Obama presidents have been handled in the past, how, exactly?

dah00
dah00

I teach at UW too, in the medical school. The visit by a president is more important than any exam from a professor. It's only a day, what's the big deal?

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

Will they dock your pay for the classes you didn't teach? Probably not, but the students who PAID for those missed classes won't be reimbursed.

dah00
dah00

Thank you for your concern, Larry. I am a physician-teacher at the hospital so I could not leave, but I excused students to go who wanted to. This event was an invaluable educational opportunity that one cannot pay for. They are lucky who were able to go. And none of them complained about it. I taught them a little extra when they got back, don't worry. They will do fine.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

The value of this even pales in comparison with the things they'll learn (or not learn, in this case) in your class.

Remind me to check when I see a Dr. 16 years from now that they weren't one of those who skipped your class that day.

array1
array1

@LarryMcLane
They can always get notes for a missed class. An acceptable substitute given the opportunity to see and hear the president of the united states I'd say

AndyMatts
AndyMatts

October 6, 2028 - "Madison Man Dies After Refusing Treatment From World-Renowned Physician Who Once Attended Obama Rally"

"....authorities are unsure why this man was concerned that the then med-student had to make up classwork relating to ovarian cysts....."

array1
array1

Why no comments from ACTUAL students concerned about being reimursed??? But hey, thanks for thinking of them.

array1
array1

The UW attracts leaders in many fields from all over the world. It is an expected part of the UW experience to have the opportunity to see and hear them and is also one of the best atttributes of the UW.

Word
Word

Those of you who don't get why people resent being inconvenienced have no idea of the stress of workloads and expectations of campus employees. Who were told thed could not come to work amd that they would have to use up vacation time for a day off they did not want or request. What happened was not a little problem. It was a major disruption that was handled very poorly by campus admin. And if the people at the rally wete students they are swtting records for length of time to graduation. More like retirees who have the time to hang out and the lack of deadlines that make it possible to hang out for an exciting event.

dah00
dah00

There were lots of faculty and students at the rally, and people too young to be college students. My job is pretty stressful too (my job is to save lives), but I see the historic nature of the event. It was a great day, a really nice way to see and be part of a national political process.

Word
Word

Clearly you were not working under deadline, and clearly your saving lives work allows you to be absent at will.

This event was not such a blessing to any of the stressed out payroll people who are struggling to keep up with their work thanks to the new HRS payroll system, the business services people dealing with yet more layers of inscrutable (supposedly efficient) forms and processes, people in HR who are trying to carry out staffing functions in a timely fashion while dealing with the wonders of HR design, or the people in the budget offices who are trying to make the dismal budget numbers work.

Some of us have the luxury of being in jobs that made it possible to participate, and for you god bless. The lowest paid among us do not have that luxury, nor do they get to take work home with them in most cases. For anyone in this circumstance, the logistical choices for the rally meant a) losing a paid vacation day for something they could not control, and b) having even more stress and pressure because the work still had to be done by set deadlines.

array1
array1

On behalf of the tens upon tens of thousands of people who were thrilled to have a chance to see and hear the president of the united States, I'm sorry for your inconvenience.

daycd
daycd

Birge Hall was functioning during the whole event. Classes taught during the event. Research carrying on as normal during the event.

Word
Word

It sucked to be unable to go to our offices. And to deal with the set up noise on Wed. It sucked to scramble to deal with the classea and meetings and work that had to be moved, rescheduled, or cancelled. Exciting yes. But very poor judgment to hold a campaign rally on Bascom Hill when three Kohl Center and Camp Randall woul have held more people with easier security. The $15,000 will never come close to the human capital wasted on this show. Sweeney is as clueless as Bielema.

array1
array1

On behalf of the tens upon tens of thousands of people who were thrilled to have a chance to see and hear the president of the united States, I'm sorry for your inconvenience.

knittingnancy
knittingnancy

As a staffer at UWM for over 40 years, I am happy that I didn't have to deal with losers like you. Find yourself a real job out in the real world where you can completely control all of the environment and never consider anyone else but yourself.

Word
Word

Knittingnancy, you probably did deal with a 'loser' like me. I've been here over 30 years. How sad that you cannot make your argument without trash talking and ridiculous conjecture.
By the way. Voting for Obama. Did in 2008. Just think the logistics stank. And it was legitimate for faculty to point that out.

AndyMatts
AndyMatts

Do you really think that's why Althouse signed on for the kvetching about Obama? Really?

Word
Word

Andy, I am not speaking for Ann Althouse, whose opportunistic screeching is just that. I speak for myself and others who wish that the powers that be had handled the whole thing differently. period.

Word
Word

It sucked to be unable to go to our offices. And to deal with the set up noise on Wed. It sucked to scramble to deal with the classea and meetings and work that had to be moved, rescheduled, or cancelled. Exciting yes. But very poor judgment to hold a campaign rally on Bascom Hill when three Kohl Center and Camp Randall woul have held more people with easier security. The $15,000 will never come close to the human capital wasted on this show. Sweeney is as clueless as Bielema.

Davisra
Davisra

Dear MJS: who says "I really wonder how many people would actually show up for a Romney or Palin event" - we conservative Republican-types may be the minority in this county, but I'm guessing enough of us would show up. Thankfully there are other folks like us beyond the rose-colored glasses of Madison.

I feel sorry for the kids with dorm rooms that overlook Bascom Hill - my son tells me all the dorm windows had to be blacked out (security reasons). That would suck - to pay big bucks for a centrally-located dorm and not to even be able to watch the goings on from your own window.

human
human

When Romney had a rally in Middleton during the primary campaign, you had to supply your name to get a ticket. And if they found your name on the recall petition list, they didn't let you in -- that happened to some friends of mine.

Romney supporters had to register to get into the Obama rally, but they were free to attend (and maybe learn something). Would the same be true for Obama supporters if Romney or Ryan actually had a rally on campus?

knittingnancy
knittingnancy

So take your immature kid back home and teach him to consider others around him. We have brats dumped in our neighborhood around UWM and at least we have police doing their jobs to keep them from spoiling the area.

Word
Word

ah, the best of emeritus staff. So attuned and willing to consider that there might be a grain of truth in some of the criticisms.

TSEliot2012
TSEliot2012

The President's visit to the UW-Madison campus may have caused disruption to daily operations, but the trio of tenured professors' responses and the football coach's ignorance of the situation were the embarassments to the university.

TonyClifton
TonyClifton

Hi, I'm Ann Althouse. I like to take pictures of protesters to make them look foolish. As if exercising their right of free speech and civil disobedience is against the natural order of the commons. I support the zealotry of the heavy hand of the state. By taking these pictures and spewing my thoughts, I'm able to "teach" the "right" who sit at home on their computers rather than go to the capitol how stupid the other side is, and it's division that leads to better things in this great land. And sometimes I'll even teach a law class or two. But mostly I spend my time on my blog, because you know, I know all I need to know about the law. C'mon -- it's not like it's a science or anything useful to the world, right?!

Jacob Vennie-Vollrath
Jacob Vennie-Vollrath

I actually liked, respected and learned a lot from both Downs and Mayer while I was at the UW. In fact I usually refer to Downs as one of my favorite professors. To hear them whining about something like this is sad. It is exciting when any president comes to town or campus - it is an opportunity to experience the things they are teaching about. They should use it as an opportunity to teach the following day in the classroom. Get over it, get over the "inconvenience", and get over yourselves please.

MikeinWisconsin
MikeinWisconsin

What a great show of democracy today. Good thing the uptight professors weren't able to block students from participating. They all need to lighten up and not take themselves so seriously.

uwalum81
uwalum81

What a great chance for students to see a sitting President in person. This is what college is all about and kudos to the University for hosting. For the complainers, please remember that you are there for the students and if you don't like working in a University because you might be "inconvenienced" by the President of the United States feel free to do us all a favor and go crawl under a rock somewhere else.

Word
Word

We ARE here to serve the students. And the state. And to meet the requirements of our granting agencies and funders (12% of the budget comes from the state), who expect us to teach classes, meet deadlines, account for our time, and do it well. If you think that meeting those responsibilities is bad and we should "crawl under a rock somewhere else," you might want to reflect on what your words say about your own political values. Is that really what you want to say to staff, many of whom were active in the 2011 uprising and will vote for Obama? Should we stay under our rocks on election day?

vailey
vailey

Agree, it's called respect and so many don't have it NOR do they care.

array1
array1

Hey, Every post here complaining about the presidents security and having to give your name to get in are from anti-Obama people. They're not even going to the rally and yet complain about ficticious difficulty of geting in! How strange.

nan3
nan3

Wonder how many whiners on here are actually inconvenienced by the president's visit...most conservatives won't even admit to living in this city so it shouldn't be bothering them.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

If it got out that someone living there was a Republican, lawless Dems would be keying their cars and throwing bricks through their windows or even go to their homes and start shooting. That's just how Dems roll.

Word
Word

I know that for the true believers this is hard to understand. So I will try to stay with one syllable words.

The visit was good for some people. For some, it brought more stress to hard jobs. Jobs held by the folks who got screwed by Act 10 and by UW bad choices. It's a good (Dem) v. evil (Rep) thing but if you feel good with a knee jerk view, it's your choice.

Boycottman
Boycottman

There are more than three UW employees annoyed by this --and more than three of those students who are charged $10,000 a year in tuition (and probably their parents too).

joebob
joebob

Don't forget to include Steve nass
I am sure he is outraged

DJZ324
DJZ324

Let the Three Stooges squawk. I guess it's too late for Prof. Downs to recoup the $675.00 he donated to repub candidates since 2000.

dmark
dmark

Apple Annie is just POed because she won't be able to watch the boys play Frisbee shirtless on Bascom Hill from her office today.

Scipio
Scipio

Glenn Reynolds, who runs instapundit.com, teaches law at the University of Tennessee.

JohnGalt2016
JohnGalt2016

Will the attendees get free Obamaphones?

dmark
dmark

You mean the ones from the program started by noted deserter, George W Bush?

Thurston Howell III
Thurston Howell III

No, the ones from the noted service dodger, Barack O'Carter.

dmark
dmark

What phone program was started under the Obama administration?

array1
array1

Only THREE???

kula88
kula88

Remember in the Bush years to attend a rally you had to be a member of the Rep Party and walk through metal detectors every time. And if they didn't like their t-shirts you were arrested. The 3 poly sci PhD's should know all about that as it is well reported in their journals. Their negative reaction reveals the current unnecessary polarized state of our society...they are actually complaining about a visit by the PRESIDENT of their country. Most schools could only dream of such an honor and would (and do) pay the full cost.

G Gordon
G Gordon

I stopped reading at "Downs was joined by law professor Ann Althouse..."

Pffffftt!

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

You stopped reading because you maxed out your attention span.

bob61
bob61

First, I if I have to register and show an ID to go to a rally, why don't I have to show an ID to vote? Secondly, if Romney were to hold a rally on Bascom Hill, he would be afforded the same amount of respect that Sarah Palin or any other conservative receives in Madison. Madisonians are tolerent of other views unless they disagree with them.

array1
array1

Because voting is a constitutional right and going to the rally is not. Also people will protest no matter who the sitting president. The same concerns would have been brought up by others if Romney were to visit. No surprise there.

MJS
MJS

First, no ID is required to attend. Secondly, I really wonder how many people would actually show up for a Romney or Palin event. Oh yeah, Palin did show up during a anti-Recall Rally and hardly anyone came to see her.

TJ88
TJ88

How convenient that they're all of sudden concerned about campaign events requiring attendees to provide their information to the campaign....EVERY campaign has been doing this for years!

I had to do this in 2007 at a Hillary Clinton event, and in 2008 at an Obama event...this is nothing new.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

Every DEMOCRAT campaign.

knittingnancy
knittingnancy

nobody would even waste a bullet on a dead wood republican.so why have any protection provided for them in any case.

snootyelites
snootyelites

After the trashing that Barry took last night; this rally sounds like a big waste of time. For the dood below who is claiming Obama was being cut off by Jim Lehrer; it is important to know that Lehrer gave Obama full 4 minutes extra.

UW should be ashamed it only has 3 tenured conservative professors. Sounds like disparate impact to me. Time to sue!

persia
persia

It's hard to get a PhD and still believe in "creation science," while denying global warming and trying to keep women barefoot and pregnant.

joe
joe

It should have been held at the capitol where it is less disruptive.

slf817
slf817

Good grief. Suck it up profs!

davea
davea

Who would be complaining if it was Romney coming?

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

If he shut down the campus and cost everyone a day of classes.

53703
53703

Oops, ideologues. When are they going to let us add corrections before the posts are final?? :)

53703
53703

Everybody quit whining.

Is it annoying to have this going on when trying to accomplish the normal work of the day? Absolutely. But, is it disrespectful to the students of the UW to host a standing Predident of the United States? Not at all. Even if some of the students have a strongly opposing viewpoint, a visit by the President serves to remind all students that they have to actively engage and work for the world they want to live in.

Part of the University mission is to graduate thoughtful members of society, and that doesn't happen if we limit the scope of what the students are exposed to in order to satisfy a few idealogues.

kchartung
kchartung

excellent points. This is definitely a learning opportunity.

Dick Dastardly
Dick Dastardly

Back behind his tele-prompter and in liberal heaven, Obama should be comfortable while costing lots of tax payer money again. Fresh off his humiliating debate loss, liberal bastion Madison should help him recover his sense of omnipotence.

Obama needs Madison much more than Madison needs Obama.

DD

ABunkerSuperPatriot
ABunkerSuperPatriot

Obama was not prepared for the level of dishonesty displayed by his opponent last night. He should have been and for the next debate he will be. The Romney team is already "clarifying" and disavowing Mittens' comments from last night. Obama should know that anytime the Mittster's lips are moving he is lying. His policies change by the minute during any one day, depending on his audience.

r212
r212

It's really distressing to see your "emperor" outed as having no clothes, isn't it?

Dazshand
Dazshand

References to fairy tales is not a real reply. There's no substance.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

You could have stopped after Obama was not prepared and summed up his whole presidency.

Willac
Willac

It's an honor for any president to visit the university, regardless of party. Cost is proportional to popularity - we can't have the president hide away because people want to see him or because extra protection is needed against threats and for protest monitoring.

robertsthc
robertsthc

Wow $250,000 on the taxpayers dime. That would just about break our city, and we're a fairly good sized college town.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

Obama spend $250,000 for a small dinner party for 4. You should be able to handle it.

PosterX
PosterX

Holy cow! Three of 700 professors are upset. This is an all time low!

A lawyer has a better idea? Get out...

Tharealsocialist
Tharealsocialist

Wow tell them to cry me a river like everyone can't move stuff a day boo hoo

happydays
happydays

I actually have a question. What about poor people who don't have computers and email or old people who never use computers. Can they go to this rally?

human
human

You can get a ticket from an Obama campaign office, without going on-line.

kchartung
kchartung

Yes, but read the fine print. Having a ticket does not guarantee you getting in to the event.

Dazshand
Dazshand

That fine print has nothing to do with being poor or not having a computer. All tickets to almost any event state that.

happydays
happydays

I think it is great that the students have this opportunity but I don't think it is fair that- say - a secretary- who probably doesn't have a huge salary - would have to take a day off. That doesn't seem fair. I thought Obama cared about the worker, especially a union worker- this should have been thought out ahead of time so people weren't hurt by it

r212
r212

Where have you been for the last 4 years (at least)? Obama is for Obama. He doesn't care about that secretary. Never has, never will.

knittingnancy
knittingnancy

And Romney cares not at all for anybody. He told us so.

MJS
MJS

Do you think he should only hold rallies at night and on the weekend? Really?

Lionhear
Lionhear

Yes happydays, it should have been held on the weekend.

misterz
misterz

Ah, the predictable whining about an Obama campus visit. Why am I not surprised? Too bad all of our kids can't be there to see a sitting president and be a participant in the election campaign process....a great and exciting learning experience whether you are Dem or Rep. I still remember in vivid detail seeing Nixon at a rally years ago and consider it one of the best memories of my life, though I didn't vote for him and never would. At least I got to see a President once in my life and it meant a lot.

Norwood44
Norwood44

You cannot do anything on the UW Campus without someone complaining. That being said, it is educational for the leader of the free world to visit a campus. Any ruffled feathers could easily be smoothed with an invite to Gov Romney to visit Madison as well. He won't come, but it would be right to let him know that he is welcome to provide both sides of the debate.

ginrummy
ginrummy

The Obama campaign should have to pay 100% of the costs of this photo op. Taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook, especially since this stop is an attempt to help his reelection. I don't want him reelected and I certainly don't want to pay for it.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

He should also have to pay back the credit hours that the students missed out on.

Fflambeau
Fflambeau

It's interesting to see who Ann Althouse (the same person who met her husband on a blog, I believe) is hanging around with over at the ultra conservative "Instapundit". Here are some random comments from viewers there watching the presidential debate:

1. "Why does Lehrer keep cutting Obama off?" (The highly respected Jim Lehrer is highly unpopular with these people and he's accused of being old (he is), overweight, and opinionated!

2. "Lehrer is doing his best to run interference for Obama, but it's not enough."

3. "Mitt Romney wins first debate. This verdict may shock some readers seeing as I'm posting it a full hour before the debate actually begins." Now that's an open mind!

4. "..the video won't hurt Obama that much because everybody knows he's a crypto lefty..."

If you bother to read some of the posts at this "web site", you'll find a lot of racist commentary too. So A. Althouse is hanging out with the same kind of types who frequented the beer halls in Munich in the 30's and listened to the same kind of hate. Is it surprising that she finds bogus reasons for objecting to a visit to a university campus by the sitting president?

Lynne4300
Lynne4300

The bullies are out. "sitting president"....exactly, he has been "sitting" for the past 4 years.

RC
RC

Wow some professors sure do like to complain! Life is just too short to worry about small potatoes like this, just stop all the whining and get back to your guaranteed work for life routine on Friday..............

RichardSRussell
RichardSRussell

Before I even read the article, seeing no more than the headline about "3 university professors", I was willing to bet that Donald Downs and Ann Althouse were among them, and they did not disappoint. Had not heard of this Ken Mayer guy, tho, but I expect I will in the future.

River
River

It's hardly appropriate to shut down Madison streets for all that UW construction for months on end but we all have to put up with it.

Fflambeau
Fflambeau

All 3 complainers are noted conservatives. Althouse is a tramp and her main "legal contribution" is a blog; she's lucky to be tenured. I recall political events decades ago being scheduled on campus too (saw Hubert Humphrey at the stock pavilion, for example) so what's the big deal? Did it never occur to these whiners that students may actually learn a great deal from interacting with their political leaders? Is there some form of disruption to campus? Of course, but so is there for big football games, homecomings and so on. And I would guess that security concerns are the prime reason for collecting to the information that these naysayers are objecting to. I'm sure the same courtesies will be extended to Mitt and to Jill Stein, the Green Party Candidate. It's an honor for any university to be visited by a sitting president; embrace it rather than whine!

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

Yeah, they regularly cancel classes (that your Daddy paid for, so I guess you don't care), restrict access to facilities and otherwise urn the campus into a locked down prison....for Football games.

Don Lond
Don Lond

Release the pawns, that the king might triumph?

Boycottman
Boycottman

They are absolutely right. It isn’t ok for the UW-Madison to host a partisan, political rally on campus in the middle of a regular class day, with the subsequent disruption of classes and the university's mission. This is not an institutional visit by a President to present his views on education, the role of youth in America, the role of universities, and so on; or to engage in a fruitful conversation with students, professors or university leaders. This is a partisan rally of a candidate to reelection who wants to get the immediate benefit of the youth's vote. Students pay around $10,000 a year in tuition to receive instruction, not acts of political propaganda. The leadership of the University decided without consultation with studnets or employees to host this event, and then saved their derrieres by declining to take any responsibility on what is going on campus that day, making the instructors, administrative staff and other university workers the only ones responsible for what happens in terms of the 'normal' functioning of the university. No, it isn't ok that a public university such as the UW-Madison hosts this kind of event, and it is definitely not ok the total lack of respect towards the students and the employees with which the event has been planned, presented, arranged, and dealt with.

Lynne4300
Lynne4300

Agree, and I am sure there are plenty of students who also agree.

knittingnancy
knittingnancy

Obviously, neither of you are students.

LarryMcLane
LarryMcLane

I wonder how much it will costs the students that PAY to go to class. To have a class canceled is actually stealing. It's like you rent a car for 5 days and they tel you you can't drive it for one of those days.

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