Health care advocates are asking Gov. Scott Walker to explain what he will do with 77,000 adults being shifted off Medicaid at the end of the year if those people are not able to get coverage by then on the new health insurance exchange.

Walker said in February that adults on Medicaid, or BadgerCare, who make more than the poverty level will have to switch to insurance on the federal exchange Jan. 1.

In late September, the state notified 77,000 people, most of them parents, that they might be affected. But letters letting people know for sure won’t be sent until Nov. 23, when the state expects to be ready to use new federal criteria to determine eligibility.

People must enroll on the exchange, or online marketplace, by Dec. 15 to get coverage by Jan. 1. Enrollment started Oct. 1 but has been greatly hampered by glitches on healthcare.gov, the exchange’s website.

Federal officials have said the website is improving and will work smoothly by Nov. 30. Enrollment continues through the end of March, but coverage doesn’t begin until two weeks or longer after people sign up.

“We are concerned that this short window does not allow enough time for all 77,000 custodial parents who are losing BadgerCare eligibility to complete the process of enrolling in qualified health plans via the marketplace,” advocacy groups said in a letter to Walker on Thursday.

“These concerns are magnified by the healthcare.gov technical glitches that have hindered enrollment thus far.”

The letter asks Walker to spell out his contingency plans if enrollment on the exchange continues to be difficult or if the federal government creates conditions under which Walker’s plan can’t be implemented.

Claire Smith, spokeswoman for the state Department of Health Services, said Walker’s plan for Jan. 1 remains in effect. “We made fiscally responsible decisions to leverage the solutions that the federal government made available to states,” she said.

“Individuals who do not apply and enroll in a health insurance plan in the marketplace by December 15 will not have coverage beginning January 1, 2014,” she said. “However, the open enrollment period for the marketplace has been extended for this first year, ending on March 31, 2014. Individuals will have until then to enroll.”

“If someone enrolled on December 16, 2013, their coverage would begin in February,” Smith said. “Our goal is to have uninterrupted coverage for members, so we are pushing for individuals to enroll by December 15.”

The letter from advocates says many of the 77,000 people could end up uninsured. That could “further strain the resources of community health centers, emergency departments and other health providers, and the millions of health care consumers in Wisconsin shouldering the health care costs of the uninsured,” it says.

The letter was sent by six groups: Community Advocates Public Policy Institute, Wisconsin Council on Children and Families, Mental Health America of Wisconsin, Wisconsin Primary Health Care Association, Wisconsin Alliance for Women’s Health and ABC for Health.

Walker opposes the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, which relies on the exchanges to increase coverage for people who don’t get insurance through their jobs or programs such as Medicaid. Like most governors, Walker chose to have the federal government run the state’s exchange.

Walker also rejected federal funding to expand Medicaid to everyone earning up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level. Instead, he’s shifting the 77,000 parents off Medicaid and allowing about 82,000 childless adults earning less than the poverty level to enroll in Medicaid.

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196ski
196ski

Good for them for sending the letter, I am just concerned that they sent it to the wrong person. Individuals leaving Badgercare are supposed to be able to enroll in the Federal exchanges under the ACA.

How is it Walker's fault that the Federal exchanges aren't working? And this isn't just people on Badgercare, anyone who has lost their insurance because their policy didn't meet ACA standards is also supposed to be able to go on the exchanges and purchase insurance, many with subsidies. Those people are also out of insurance on January 1.

This isn't Wisconsin's problem to solve. The problem lies with the Federal government being unable to get the Exchanges running despite spending 3 years and 600 million dollars.

What is OBAMA going to do about it?

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

I see, so it was Obama that turned down the federal money to expand medicare in Wisconsin…. damn him!

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

You clearly do not understand how this thing works. By turning down the expansion money, Walker is simply putting the onus on the Federal Government to implement the program that THEY initiated. This has nothing to do with Walker hating poor people or anything else. He just made a decision to let the Fed's handle the business that they started. That is all, end of story.

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

Also, it's Medicaid that we are talking about here, not Medicare. They are two different programs genius.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Funny, I didn't read anywhere in this story it was Obama's fault…..

Scott Walker, just another heartless Republican who will never be President.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Why is Walker and the Republicans so heartless?

They go against the Bible, then tout themselves as "compassionate conservatives"… the only part of that claim that's true is the "con"

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops released the texts of four letters to various House committee chairs in which the bishops assess the moral ramifications of the federal budget.

In each of the letters, the bishops reiterate the key criteria for such moral evaluations, the protection of human dignity, how proposals affect “the least of these,” and whether or not a given proposal advances the common good.

The bishops could not be more clear in rendering their verdict: “The House-passed budget resolution fails to meet these moral criteria.”

Paul Ryans budget…. which Scott Walker mirrors with his Wisconsin budget.

http://ncronline.org/blogs/distinctly-catholic/usccb-tackles-paul-ryan

bookman21
bookman21

I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
M. Gandhi

powmda
powmda

Why don't the "advocates" go whining to their beloved Obama? He will feel their pain, give the parasites even more free health care, a free Obama phone, upski the amount of their food stamps, AND, to the first 1,000 callers (who can through!!) a set of the new Ginzu knives AND a free toaster! Call now!

TripleG60
TripleG60

powmda: There is sarcasm that is amusing -- a delightful form of humor. There is sarcasm that is insightful and instructive -- an engaging way to teach and learn. And there is sarcasm that clearly reflects the twisted spirit of the speaker/writer, pushing others away with its ugliness and causing folks like me to slowly shake our heads in amazement and hope to high heaven we don't get stuck sitting near you at the bingo table the next time we visit Mom at the home.

bookman21
bookman21

@powdma Why did Walker refuse to expand Medicaid? Those were free federal funds.
We all know why. It would have helped Obama. The pain and suffering of tens of thousands of poor people was a small price to pay to stick a pin into the president.

Maerzie
Maerzie

This is just great! Because of Walker's TeaNut brain and insecure ego, WE are going to end up paying for the health care of the poor in Wisconsin, that we have ALREADY paid for already in our federal taxes!! The OTHER Republican governors, with SECURE egos, who had also decided not to take OUR SHARE of the federal health care money, CHANGED THEIR MINDS, and TOOK the money when they figured out how much it was going to cost their constituents, BUT NOT SCOTT WALKER!! Big, ballsy, Mr. Cocky Insecurity, was going to SHOW everybody that he knew better, and he didn't NEED any of OUR SHARE of federal money! WONDERFUL! But, it won't cost HIM a cent! WE are the ones who will suffer for his stupidity of depending on someone ELSE's calculations! Math OBVIOUSLY was NOT his best subject!! What IS Scott Walker's I.Q. anyway?? About 75??

Gayle
Gayle

Scott Walker is an idiot. I went to the Milw Zoo recently and watched the baboons pull poop out of their butt, play with it and eat. Reminded me of our hideous guvner.. I can't wait till he fades out into the annals of loser politicians who really need to just go away.

milton's fried man
milton's fried man

Walker...obligate copraphage... You're right, it does have a ring to it.

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

The Federal money that they offered us will still be used to provide insurance for poor people in Wisconsin. It will just be spent on the Federal level through their exchange instead of here. I wish people understood this.

196ski
196ski

Maerzie - "Because of Walker's TeaNut brain and insecure ego, WE are going to end up paying for the health care of the poor in Wisconsin, that we have ALREADY paid for already in our federal taxes!!"

Maerzie, WE are going to pay to insure the poor no matter what! Where do you think government money comes from? If it's the State then its our State taxes, if its the Feds then its money borrowed in our name.

The "poor" go to the Exchanges and because of their income get free or subsidized insurance. If Walker had taken the Medicaid money then the State would administer Federal funds (our money) to insure the poor. The difference in this case is that the Federal government has only guaranteed to cover those added to the States Medicaid roles for 2 years, then they will pay 90% with this number being gradually reduced over time.

The FAULT here lies in the fact that the Exchanges don't work. Come January 1st, millions of Americans could find themselves without healthcare and it will have nothing to do with Walker.

For what its worth I am not a supporter of Walker. He has done a ton of misguided things, this isn't one of them.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Here is a non Government website that will help you look at insurance that is available on the exchange….. and it works!

http://www.thehealthsherpa.com

AdjunctProf
AdjunctProf

It would be lovely if the advocate groups would write President Obama a letter of pressure since it is his program causing the problems. Taking one-time federal money for an ongoing program makes no sense. Setting up a commuter rail line at tens or hundreds of millions of dollars in operating loss makes no sense. Increasing taxes in an already high-taxed state makes no sense. Controlling costs makes sense. Asking public workers to pay a fraction of their health insurance and pensions makes sense. For those who think they have too much money and government should get more of it to redistribute, I encourage them to send in more. Want to help your schools, get your sub license and work for free. Or, just give your kids teacher cash if you think they deserve more. Shovel city parking lots or cut the grass in parks. Go ahead, pitch in if you think government needs more help. Like most of us, I think government can learn to do more with the same or less.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Thank goodness the majority of us don't think like you.

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

Speak for yourself.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Actually, I can speak for all of Wisconsin…. we voted for Obama twice remember!

and that's a majority!

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

We also voted for Scott Walker twice, remember?

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Third times a charm!

Maerzie
Maerzie

I can see why adjunct professors don't make any money! People usually get paid as much as they're worth.

grandys
grandys

OBAMA LIED!
&
HEALTHCARE DIED!

This couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of liberals!

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

BUSH LIED

&

AMERICANS DIED!

Brought to you by the Republicans party

196ski
196ski

If Bush lied then so did Senators Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Joe Biden, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer. Recognize any of those names?

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

the other side did it too….. aren't you getting tired of that argument?

It wasn't Democrats that told all the lies about Iraq

I know how desperately you Republicans want to re-write history… but the fact is Bush lied to the Country and Americans died because of those lies.

JoeBlow
JoeBlow

@Wis_taxtaker:

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missiIe delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

I can give you more if you'd like.

Please stop saying "Bush lied". The only liar is you.

Maerzie
Maerzie

Ah yes! Bush DID lie. BEFORE he went to Congress to lie to get his revenge war so he could kill Saddam Hussein, as he said on national TV "because he TRIED to kill MY DADDY!" the administration had FURTHER proof that there were NO WMD's to be found. He KNEW that, and he wanted the war anyway!

Maerzie
Maerzie

http://www.salon.com/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/

There is ample proof that Bush KNEW there were NO WMD's in Iraq BEFORE he went to Congress, but he wanted his revenge on Saddam Hussein for his own selfish personal reasons. Bush should pay the monetary debt out of his own pocket, but the human deaths and maimed victim soldiers and civilians can never be amended in any way!!

WHEN are we going to take Bush and Cheney to trial for their war crimes!!??

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

BUSH LIED !

He lied about WMD's
He lied about warrent less wire tapping
He lied about chemical weapons
He lied about the cost of the war
He lied about Al Qaida in Iraq
He lied about yellow cake
He lied about water boarding

YES, BUSH LIED and Americans died, get over it, you elected a liar!

vickie
vickie

I am on Badger care plus core plan. But will lose it in December. I am a heart transplant and I do have other health problems also. Because of me being a transplant I was getting badger care for 60.00 .What I have read about the Obama thing , I will not be able to afford it. Not when my husband is on disability and I help him cause he's partially handicap. He gets his medical through the VA. but we do have a co pay to pay. We make under 17,000 a year.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

Apparently the affordable care act is not so affordable...Not to be a cold hearted person, but the conservatives have been shouting from the rooftops that this was going to be bad legislation that will reduce service and increase cost for everyone.

blockhead
blockhead

These people are poor, and should be covered by the AFC Medicaid expansion, that Walker refused, and which will cause Wisconsin taxpayers to lose $ millions, lose healthcare jobs presently associated with BadgerCare + for the last 8 years, and poor Wisconsinites to go without health care.

You really don't have a clue as to what the issues are, do you papalorax? You just keep spouting ignorant slogans.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

all that lost "money" will be still coming to Wisconsin in the form of subsidies for ACA plans.

No one goes without insurance - the feds tried to bribe the states to take these people and Walker said no...pay for them through the federal exchange.

I have a firm grasp as to what is happening...it seems you and I differ and what the best solution would be.

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

Is it just another "ignorant slogan" that Obama is currently negotiating with Big Labor to carve out a deal that will exempt them from the Reinsurance Tax which will ultimately result in a 25 BILLION dollar hole that the rest of us get to fill? Where is your outrage over that?

I would say blockhead is a fitting name for you.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/health-and-human-services-quietly-giving-unions-obamacare-fix/article/2538621?custom_click=rss

spooky tooth
spooky tooth

vickie,
Go to HealthCare.gov or call 1-800-318-2596.
Write back what you find out.

truthzeeker
truthzeeker

If you were only paying $60.00 a month, who was paying for the cost of your heart transplant? Plus the cost of your other health problems? I don't think you realize that you were already being subdized by the government. And now you complain you can't get health insurance for $60.00? Maybe some of your good Republican friends will take care of you. Or maybe you will begin to appreciate what Obama was trying to do for you. If we had Universal Health insurance, we wouldn't be writing about your problem. Think about it!

spooky tooth
spooky tooth

Uninsured people, low wages, no public schools, no unions, no local control, increased pollution, no social security, no medicare, increased separation of wealth and old white guys controlling women's health issues are just a few of the things the Koch brothers republican party is all about.

graefental
graefental

Let's be honest about it, folks. If Scott Walker came right out and said, "Those stupid people without insurance can just get sick and die for all I care," his supporters would STILL be singing his praises in a manner suggesting that he is a great American on a par with Abe Lincoln or Thomas Jefferson. Oh and by the way, it would somehow be Obama's fault that Walker made that statement.

It's kind of creepy.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

look at the flipside - you have Obama talking about how much he cares, how this is going to solve the problem, blah blah blah. It is now a terrible situation and his supporters are still singing his praises. Oh by the way...it's those pesky republicans in the house and state houses that are the blame.

Sad for the not wealthy
Sad for the not wealthy

...I mean, other than costing us billions and billions to play political chicken, and try to link our world credit rating to a policy decision...let's hear it for the "fiscally responsible" party. Does that sound at all familiar that a recall was sought for policy decisions disagreeable to the Left here in WI. See, PapaLorax, a reasonable person can see both sides...

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

I pride myself on being reasonable...I get lumped in with some of the flamethrowers here. I don't think you would find many of my posts being unreasonable. I have a drastically different view of the role of government in society then most people (especially on the left) and explaining that is often seen as offensive. I can accept that.

Sad for the not wealthy
Sad for the not wealthy

Getting used to this lag in communication, appreciate the response to "shortcomings" question, a whole lot more like dialogue than shouting down the other side. Going to double down here and play on Lorax a bit, what do you think about relaxing phosphorous regulations into our lakes, commercial interests from Geobic Taconite (not sure much net job gain to be had) to draining wetlands, to overlooking corporate pollution, all trumping environmental protections, to increased sand fracking/toll on local roads/tax base/air pollution for local populatins, to selling huge chunks of land to China without any forseeable long-term benefit for Wisconsin Does the priority of commerce/industry so skewed against our natural resources trouble you?

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

Ah yes - the inevitable environmental questions because of my username.

First off, the foreign owner rules were weird and from what I remember ignored. With global companies existing I don't have any concerns about that.

I think your last question is the key and well-phrased. However, I do not have any issues with the direction the GOP has moved in terms of giving industry more leeway in terms of natural resources. I don't agree with the constant tightening of regulations that has occurred since CAA and CWA were implemented. The weakening of regulations isn't pushing us back to some pre-EPA time frame as those on the left would make it seem. That is a very general answer.

Phosphorous - don't know enough - would that be the muckity-muck or the schloppity-schlopp? :)
Wetland regulation - no problem with the proposal which includes mitatgated restoration
Sand Fracking - no problem

graefental
graefental

Just like I said. Instead of addressing the point I made, which was about WALKER, you flipped it over to Obama. Why don't you either agree or disagree with my point, instead of bringing up Obama?

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

are you serious? You didn't make a point about Walker. You made up a quote and said imagine if he said this...you suggested that people who vote for Walker want people to die.

and you wanted a serious response...that's hilarious.

Lynne4300
Lynne4300

The people losing Badgercare, are the ones being "transitioned" (Obama's word) to the Obamacare plan. This problem is caused by the Obama administration, not the State of Wisconsin.

Lefties, this is what you wanted, now enjoy it.

nan3
nan3

Why are you such a nasty person?

Crow Barr
Crow Barr

Lynne is from Janesville, could be Mrs. Paul Ryan.

denbar1948
denbar1948

If Walker thinks the Federal government is so bad why did he throw these people under the bus to begin with. He rejected the Fed dollars to keep them on BadgerCare.

The GOP controls all of State government. So by your logic if a problem comes up they do not need to deal with it since as you claim it is not their fault. Is not the essence of governing finding solutions to the problems we face?

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

yeah Lynne, single payer is next!…. come on 2016 Hillary!

MadisonSteve
MadisonSteve

What will he do??? He will snicker to himself and then try to look serious while blaming the Affordable Care Act, of course. Clearly making Wisconsinites suffer in order to further his political ambitions has been his goal all along. Walker and his friends have done all they can to undermine health care reform, and they see these people's suffering as a victory.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

the sole reason the people won't have coverage (as explained in the article) is because of the failure of ACA to take on the new sign-ups.

This isn't his program - ACA. The state is following all the medicaid rules put forth by the federal government. We have increased medicaid spending drastically.

Sad for the not wealthy
Sad for the not wealthy

PapaLorax, let's hear you speak for the trees. Any reasonable person could see strengths and weaknesses in either side's position. What do you see as Walker's shortcoming's under his term as our governor?

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

I think Act 10 was too penal in the recertification requirements. That all you needed to do was allow people the choice to be in the union or not...not destroy the union through a single piece of legislation.

I think they screwed up Voter ID but not allowing all state university IDs and other forms of ID.

I think the abortion restrictions are complete government overreach.

I do not like the additional borrowing, but understand that they actually made substantial cuts and more would have been politically way too difficult.

WEDC has been a disaster in management and execution.

Traderjoe
Traderjoe

Oh I see the problem. Your talking about the ACA while the others are referring to Obamacare. They're just a little confused. Most of the Libs commenting here probably did not bother to even READ the article and are just " following suit " which is all that they know how to do. Kinda sad really...😞

JRT083
JRT083

Your comments are ridiculous. Somehow liberals seem to think that because a conservative hesitates to open up the taxpayer’s checkbook for cradle to grave care of citizens, this somehow translates into them not caring about people or even further that they somehow see the suffering of others as being "a victory". This is utter nonsense.

spooky tooth
spooky tooth

jr,

Go look up the 57 fortune 500 companies that pay zero tax and on average these 500 companies pay 12.5%.

Go look up how responsible republicans got us into two unfunded wars that have been going on for more then a decade. Iraq was a total lie and Afghanistan offered the U.S. bin Laden and Al Qaeda if we wouldn't attack. It's not just the money, responsible republicans are responsible for the hundreds of thousand dead and injured.

Maybe responsible republicans can go after Wall St/Big Banks for bringing our economy to it's knees and give the money back to tax payers that had to bail them out.

Is it even necessary to talk about the millions of people that live on minimum wage, working two or more jobs because we have International Trade Deals that threw American workers under the bus?

Responsible republicans are all concerned about affordable health care, where everyone pays. Why do responsible republicans like the old system where about 50 million people just showed up at the emergency room and their expenses were paid for by raising the premiums on those that had insurance?

The only thing responsible republicans are good at is hate, fear, divide and conquer. Responsible republicans are suckers that take orders of their supreme leaders, the dear Koch brothers.

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

The Democrats certainly don't want everyone to pay, just the people that don't fund their campaigns.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/health-and-human-services-quietly-giving-unions-obamacare-fix/article/2538621?custom_click=rss

Dode
Dode

I'm sure Hillary's answer would be "What does it matter now? They're all gonna die anyway. We just have to pretend the federal government won't do this to the people again." Imagine how screwed up a single payer system would be under democrat control.

If Washington actually gave one hoot about these folks, they would give us the money with no strings attached.

Crow Barr
Crow Barr

dode---Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!!!! Hide behind your little flag icon, can't read what it says---looks like "My Jesus guides me" ??

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PapaLorax
PapaLorax

you do realize - the "obstruction" literally has nothing to do with the failure associated with the launch.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

It's all about Jobs, Jobs, Jobs…. Laser Focused!

Lionheart
Lionheart

They forgot the sub-headline: Walker to Advocates: Who cares?

TheRestOfTheStory
TheRestOfTheStory

Love these true Christians coming on and spouting their hate about how 'their' Governor never did anything wrong about kicking people off of Aid. Even though it was done with a political end game in mind.

Here's someone who doesn't agree with you all. A pastor, by golly. Go figure.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/08/the-obamacare-question-pastors-shun/?hpt=hp_c2

Note this all you haters : The coverage gap was created when 25 states refused to accept the expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare.

So , yes, our Scotty did in fact create this issue. Not the feds. Maybe time to look into your conscience a little instead of spewing only Hate? But I doubt you will. At least I asked.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Only one Pastor…. I can top that with The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops released the texts of four letters to various House committee chairs in which the bishops assess the moral ramifications of the federal budget.

In each of the letters, the bishops reiterate the key criteria for such moral evaluations, the protection of human dignity, how proposals affect “the least of these,” and whether or not a given proposal advances the common good.

The bishops could not be more clear in rendering their verdict: “The House-passed budget resolution fails to meet these moral criteria.”

Paul Ryans budget…. which Scott Walker mirrors with his Wisconsin budget.

http://ncronline.org/blogs/distinctly-catholic/usccb-tackles-paul-ryan

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

so your feeling is the government should do what the catholic church feels is right?

bookman21
bookman21

I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
M. Gandhi

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

I haven't read a lot where Christ said - in lieu of doing good...just go ask the government to do it for you.

But I could have missed those parts.

JohnGalt2016
JohnGalt2016

So the Feds mess up & it's the Governor's job to fix it? Madison prideless public, parasite logic! The feds always mess things up & that's why we should not allow them to so more than is allowed in the constitution.

bookman21
bookman21

Is this about fingerpointing or about the best thing for the people of our state?

truthzeeker
truthzeeker

As I read thru many of the blogs posted on this article, it is interesting how Walker’s lackeys come out in droves and try to bully anyone who does not follow their limited line of thinking.

First of all, the ACA is the law of the land whether you like it or not. Those same complainers screamed during the Bush Junior’s messy years to have an up or down vote in the Senate on some of the goofy programs of Bush. I do not hear that scream anymore. You are now down to nit picking anything that comes down from Obama. While much of the rest of the World has universal health care, you continue to try and deny our citizens universal health care coverage. It is here and it is unfortunate it took so long to be implemented. As this coverage settles in and the years pass, you will finally see what we should have done back in the 90’s.

Kind of reminds me of the old biblical days when the same people thought the earth was flat. Will they ever learn?

JohnGalt2016
JohnGalt2016

ACA is the law of the land bit the law doesn't require The Governor to bail Obama out. Obama said he was sorry he mislead [lied] to people & the lost their health insurance so why doesn't he just suspend Obamacare?

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Bush mislead (lied) to the people on the Iraq war, so why don't we prosecute him for war crimes?

truthzeeker
truthzeeker

The real reason Walker won’t support ACA is he wants to take it down. And he doesn’t care how many average persons he will hurt as long as he looks good to the Tea Party fanatics and the big donors.

As far as Obama's lie, it was more a case of misuse of words. What he should have said is that you may lose your current coverage but you will still have coverage (better) from the same insurer. Had the obstructionists not destroyed the original model (Universal Health Care) everyone would be better off. But that will never be good enough for those who think they are better then the rest of our society. Like you.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

great - so these people will get their plans from the fed exchange...nothing to worry about then...right?

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

sadly, no they never will.

Sad for the not wealthy
Sad for the not wealthy

Hi first time caller. Walker turns down federal aid (for health care, transportation, etc), and it ends up costing WI taxpayers more out of pocket as a result. His actions are spiteful of the poorest population of this state, to bolster his national standing. He cares more about his donors that WE THE PEOPLE. It's not hard to see. Education and the environment suffer to help his pals. If the WEDC fiasco/embezzlement came from the left, the uproar would be deafening. What ever happened with confiscated computers that were sabatoged and not turned over in a timely manner re: gerrymandering/re-districting? In 1972, it was called Watergate and got a President impeached. Here in WI in 2013, sweep it under the rug, look the other way, whatever $$$ has to do to consolidate it's wealth and power and keep the middle-class at bay. Walker and his reactionary policies are the worst thing to ever happen to WI for social, economic, environmental, educational reasons. We are a laughingstock and have the cowed morale to show for it. SHAME on Walker.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

there is nothing that shows it is costing more out of pocket - that one study by a liberal group - was so full of holes of massive leaps of logic.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Study? what study? this poster didn't quote any study papa…. you are so intrenched in your liberal media logic that you don't take the time to read and comprehend the post.

We don't need any study, just the facts, and the fact is that Walker has pushed our long term debt in Wisconsin to an all time high of 14 Billion dollars. The source is Walker's own labor department.

Fact Walker turned down 800 million for high speed rail, now it's going to cost us not only the 66 million but the money we already paid for the train cars that sit in storage.

Fact Walker has borrowed more moony to push our debt back than any previous Governor in our history, again the source is the State itself.

all of which costs Wisconsin tax payers more money.

Ron Johnson voted to shut down our Government along with the rest of the house Republicans, which cost tax payers 24 Billion dollars for nothing, and yes, that trickles down to Wisconsin as well.

Just because you are not seeing increases in your taxes today, doesn't mean that out Taxes won't go up because of Walker and the Wisconsin Republicans, they simply pushed it back onto the next Governor in 2015.

Now, let's hear your "facts"


PapaLorax
PapaLorax

you do realize that not increasing debt means more cuts to government programs...are you wanting that? I am.

Also, it is not a fact that we are paying Talgo

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Actually it is a fact that we have paid Talgo for the work that has already been done.

"Talgo, a Spanish company with U.S. headquarters in Seattle, got a no-bid contract in which the state agreed to buy the two train sets for $47.5 million. That cost has since increased by more than $1 million because of contract changes and the state has so far paid $42.2 million to the firm, according to the DOT. The state has expended millions more for a temporary maintenance base and planning for a permanent base, spare parts and consulting fees.

The payments were made using bonds, with taxpayers ultimately on the hook for those expenditures."

http://www.twincities.com/ci_21936447/wisconsin-train-maker-talgo-sues-state-walker

Wisconsin has already paid 42.2 million Dollars! and that's a fact jack!

So, YES indeed we are paying Talgo, and we will be paying for Talgo for years and years as we did so by use of bonds.

Was this the only fact you were disputing?

Harvey
Harvey

Looks like the ERs better start staffing up and sending the bills to people who do have insurance.

concerned_citizen
concerned_citizen

the Baptist preacher's son
don't care
about
the sick
the poor
the hungry.

The Baptist preacher's son
serves money
and personal ambition.

Talk to the hand!
Cause Scotty's not listenin'.

AmericaInDistress
AmericaInDistress

As we all will, Gods will, we will die.

bookman21
bookman21

And the poor will do it sooner thanks to Scott Walker and his tea party cronies.

Harvey
Harvey

Exactly. My aunt can cite verse quicker than dealing a hand of cards. But the thought of helping the poor - not so much. Same thing for an employee of mine who lives in Texas. She got divorced because her husband could no longer tolerate her holy-roller preaching. But when I ask how Texas is going to deal with the uninsured (leads the nation with 25%) I hear crickets.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

because government assistance is now how we demonstrate our "care" and "concern"...what a sad sad reality people have come to accept.

bookman21
bookman21

@Lorax Or we can follow your lead and just let them get sick and die.

Mr Mellow
Mr Mellow

BadgerCare isn't the only Wisconsin program shedding customers effective January 1st.

HIRSP (the Health Insurance Risk Sharing Plan) is ending. This Wisconsin non-profit was created in 1979 to offer "health insurance to Wisconsin residents who either are unable to find adequate health insurance coverage in the private market due to their medical conditions or who have lost their employer-sponsored group health insurance."

The HIRSP website says "Recently, Wisconsin passed a new state budget that sunsets the Health Insurance Risk-Sharing Plan. The language approved in the budget establishes the last day of coverage for HIRSP and HIRSP Federal Plan members as December 31, 2013..."

HIRSP has been serving about 25,000 people, all of whom now must find other insurance.

Walker and the GOP legislature have now tossed over 100,000 Wisconsin citizens into the private health insurance marketplace, while doing their best to sabotage that marketplace.

It's this type of behavior that has brought me to total contempt of the Republican Party.

DaTruth
DaTruth

Nice try. They had to retire HIRSP because of Obamacare. Read much?

FromUpNorth
FromUpNorth

This is Obama's problem, not Scotty's. Obama wanted to change healthcare, consider it changed. Obama can't deliver on his end of having the exchanges set up in time. All I know is my employer insurance is going up and our taxes are going up so we can pay for others insurance. What's the next entitlement?

jefftimmons
jefftimmons

I also live up north, and the Walker's administration should and be responsible for the health care debacle in Wisconsin. The governor by refusing to take the additional Medicare money and setting up state exchanges deleting the health insurance risk sharing plan and many other items in the last budget bill has has put large numbers of Wisconsin Citizen at risk. One needs only to look at the state of Minnesota to realize the difference (they have their own exchange, expanded Medicare, and kept there high risk pool). If you live in Stillwater, Minnesota and you are 50 years old, your health costs for the medium plan is $245 per month, if you live in Hudson the same plan is $645 per month. What else can one say, Mr. Walker looks great to the conservatives at the expense of the citizens of Wisconsin.

AmericaInDistress
AmericaInDistress

say "Duh!"

JS_serr
JS_serr

You could say your facts are wrong. MN is closing their risk pool. they have to, part of ACA.

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_24005007/minnesotas-high-risk-insurance-pool-closing-after-2014

middleton_jim
middleton_jim

Oh wait, MN is closing at the END of 2014, to allow for an orderly transition.

bobbyk1950
bobbyk1950

my BadgerCare was "cancelled" effective Oct 1, 2013, because my "income" at that time "exceeded" the 100% of poverty guidelines, did not exceed the maximum in effect the day before that. the High Risk plan has been discontinued in Wisconsin, sending the "uninsurable" to the exchanges. Walker's promise that "nobody will lose BadgerCare before Jan. 1 when they can be already enrolled in coverages through the exchanges" is a complete lie. I have no coverage at all today because of arbitrary social engineering by Walker. now that's an accurate situation for me. forget the lies and spins. get real about the mess Wisconsin is facing.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

don't know your specific situation - obviously - but that doesn't match up with any of the information that has been released from the people on your side of the argument.

Traderjoe
Traderjoe

Go ahead and sign up for ObamaCare. What is the problem? Oh. You say you can't get on the Website to enroll? Not Walkers fault at all. Did you even try to enroll?? Remember, everything will be fine by November 30th. Come back in January and tell us your story . Who is it that is telling the lies ? Certainly not Scott Walker.

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

You knew this was coming. You should have called the Federal Healthcare line or tried to register online. Just because you refuse to to help yourself doesn't make this Walker's fault.

slf817
slf817

What, like Walker cares????? He could care less.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

that we have so many people expecting the government to "care" about them is indication that we are going in the wrong direction.

Lionheart
Lionheart

"Promote the general welfare". Although there is also the "gimme mine" set as well. The argument should be over finding a balance.

Traderjoe
Traderjoe

This is the Crux of the Liberal mindset. Never taking responsibility for their actions or admitting to mistakes. They never own up to their failures. Always relying on others for a hand and to give blame to . It's time you own up to the Obamacare failures. There were right when they said that Obamcare is more than a "glitchy" website. It is also the single largest Government FAIL ..... Ever.... PERIOD ! This article was written just to stir up the base. Walker has nothing to do with the loss of coverage for these people. Besides, isn't it FAIR that these people should lose coverage along with the Millions of other Americans being dropped from theirs ? Thanks #LiarinChief . Go to http://tinyurl.com/odegru8 and sign the petition and let them know we want to bring integrity back to America.

wesconsin
wesconsin

And how is this Obama's fault? Kind of like how that milk that was spilled on the floor in your kitchen this morning was Obama's fault?

Did you miss this part?
"Walker also rejected federal funding to expand Medicaid to everyone earning up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level."

This is Walker being a baby and not caring about the poor, only caring about playing politics. I'm not sure how you don't see this, and how you could possibly blame this specific situation on Obama, it has nothing to do with him at all. This is a state issue, created by Walker.

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

Did you miss the part where all the people that got removed from Badgercare can go on the Federal exchange to get their insurance now? This isn't Walker's fault.

River
River

Happy New Year folks!

Lorem Ipsum
Lorem Ipsum

A peaceful Muharram to you as well.

scorp
scorp

Obama and the incompetent dems screw up the entire system and the dems now demand that WALKER fix it ! Now that the Obama incompetency is clear, the dems are running for cover and are blaming Walker . The flogging of Bush for Obama's stupidity must have lost its charm. Even the dem congressmen are fleeing from that toxic lying incompetent . the "great Socialist Society" doomed by the consequences of affirmative action!

MrNatural
MrNatural

Well, that wins the coveted "Most Asinine Comment Award" today. Congratulations!

Lorem Ipsum
Lorem Ipsum

Gee whiz. Are you the scorpion that stung the frog carrying him across the river?

Cheezer
Cheezer

If Obama was a competent President we would not be in this mess!

So much for hope and change!

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Today's top news stories in Wisconsin….

Wisconsin ranks 50th in education gap…...

Wisconsin tax payers on the hook for 66 million for the train debacle…..

77,000 Kicked off of Badgercare…..

and it's not even a Friday news dump day!

Thank you Scott Walker…. it's working!

toobad
toobad

Wisconsin #1 where it matters most. Thank You Gov Walker

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-07/if-you-live-illinois-retire-now-or-move-wisconsin

Traderjoe
Traderjoe

Wow@wiz_tacks , once again I must come in and shoot down every one of you points ( lies) .

"Wisconsin ranks 50th in Education"-You seem to be putting the blame On Teachers! If we are in the top third in spending on per pupil, the only reasonable conclusion must be it is the Educator's fault . Not Walker's.

"Taxpayers on the hook for 66 Million"- Ummm....NO. This is a FLAT OUT LIE. It may will never even make it to court. From today's JSOnline; "If the Claims Board were to agree with Talgo, the Republican-controlled Legislature and Walker would also have to sign off, something unlikely to happen. If the claim is rejected, Talgo COULD take its case to court."

"77,000 Kicked off BadgerCare" - More lies. But let's use the beloved Liar in Chief's logic when responding to the Millions losing coverage BECAUSE of Obamacare. He said that it is a very small percentage of the population that will be effected by it. ONLY 2%. Well, less than 1.5 percent( 77,000) of Wisconsin's population will be effected IF they lose their care. And that would be for a very short period of time, again, IF EVER ! And again, NOT WALKERS FAULT!!!! Yes it is Working...

wesconsin
wesconsin

Walker also rejected federal funding to expand Medicaid to everyone earning up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level.

Facts are hard for you, aren't they.

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

They can still go on the Federal exchange and will qualify for a subsidy if they are below that threshold. Facts must be hard for you too.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

"National report card: Wisconsin's achievement gap worst in nation"

National Assessment of Educational Progress tests released Thursday, showed the state’s achievement gap is the highest of all 50 states.

Thank you Scott Walker…. it's working!

See what 1 billion in cuts to Education do to a State!

http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/education/local_schools/national-report-card-wisconsin-s-achievement-gap-worst-in-nation/article_ddd277c5-8c55-568d-a74d-6c006e10819e.html

DaTruth
DaTruth

You Church of Obama worshipers are a sorry lot - Governor Walker is just expressing his faith that Obama can fix this mess and all will be well. Sad when he has more faith than you - he's not even a member.

bro
bro

This may be the most ignorant comment ever. I bet after a few months without coverage for these people when Gov Clown is forced to spend millions of our taxpayer money to fix the problem he created, you'll praise Walker for fixing the problem. Walker reminds me of the movie "Backdraft". Watch it you might be enlightened .

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

bro, you're right. It seems that Walker turned down $800,000,000 for high speed rail - costing Wisconsin a lot of jobs, but obeying his Billionaire puppet masters - and ended up having to spend millions of state money on repairs and upgrades to those same sections of rail, just to make them useable for industry.

Walker Asks for Federal Rail Money
http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/118839849.html

MILWAUKEE (AP) -- Several months after rejecting federal funds to build high-speed rail across Wisconsin, Gov. Scott Walker is now asking for at least $150 million to add trains for an existing Milwaukee-to-Chicago line.

Walker said Tuesday the federal funds would be used to buy two train sets and eight locomotives as well as build a maintenance facility in Milwaukee.

The announcement came after the Republican governor, upholding a campaign promise, turned down $810 million to build a Madison-to-Milwaukee high-speed line. Walker had criticized the rail line as a waste of taxpayer money.

DaTruth
DaTruth

Walker created Obamacare? He destroyed HIRSP? Kind of hard to buy that, Bro, since not a single Republican voted for your man's plan. Keep trying.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

DaTruth, I guess by "Republican" you meant to include the RINOS (Republican In Name Only) who supported Obama in refusing to allow our nation to be taken hostage during the shutdown a few weeks ago, and didn't obey the Tea Party "leader" Ted Cruz of Texas in trying to extort a shut down of the Affordable Care Act in order to reopen the federal government.

So maybe not EVERY Republican is so entrenched against the Affordable Care Act as you would like reader to believe. Maybe some Republicans, you know, those RINOS have a conscience and actually care about the many benefits to the working people of our nation in receiving health care with no exclusions for pre-existing conditions.

bro
bro

Again, you fail to see DaTruth. ACA is the law. Your hero had a choice: 1. Help his citizens, the people he is supposed to represent. or 2. Do the bidding of his radical campaign donors. He chose #2. Regardless of anyone's beliefs on the ACA, the governor either intentionally or idiotically chose to make it as difficult as he could at a high financial cost to us, the citizens of Wis. My belief is that he has no moral compass and has a low intellect. He has high self esteem but at the same time is willing to let his handlers jerk his strings. He is by far the most dishonest governor in the country. You can read his most recent lie on politifact. In other words: He has no problem making people wrongly suffer for his political agenda. He is too stupid to understand the ramifications of his owners' plans. Not that it matters because he doesn't care. He is following a script handed to him from outside influences. When he gets a chance to speak to the press, he will lie most of the time even when the truth is obvious. Even though you despise the ACA, then you should be really ticked that Walker made a bad situation much worse.

DaTruth
DaTruth

FOF - Cruz was right. 15 Dem Senators are calling for a 1-year delay. Maybe they joined the Tea Party?

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ DaTruth - Regardless of the rationale for any Democratic Senators looking at delaying the Affordable Care Act, there can be no doubt that Tea Party zealots such as Cruz cost our national economy at least 24 billion with the federal shutdown, and delayed work that could have been done to enhance the Affordable Care Acts' rollout.

Claim Cruz was "right" if you like, but many conservative Republican leaders say that he was WRONG:
But away from the cameras, most Republican party actors — including many who are very conservative and whom Cruz would need for a White House run — believe that the shutdown has been a disaster for the party, and they hold Cruz responsible. It’s one thing to be a radical; it’s another to be a loser who concocted a losing strategy.

The bottom line? If you want to know who is winning in the race for the GOP nomination, don’t watch the straw polls, and don’t watch polling spikes that are produced by news coverage and evaporate when that coverage changes. Instead, watch what party leaders — as wide a range of party leaders as possible — are saying about candidates. And what most of them have been saying for the last couple of weeks about Ted Cruz, on and off the record, is far from complimentary.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/10/14/no-ted-cruz-isnt-winning-a-presidential-nomination-with-his-shutdown-antics/

196ski
196ski

Your link if from the 14th of November. Cruz, who I don't necessarily support, now looks like a prophet. Far from complementary of Cruz? GOOD, we need a shakeup in Washington, politicians on both sides of the isle are leading us to another recession.

So Cruz and some Republicans cost the economy an estimated 24 billion. Whose estimate? And what about the lack of any cohesive economic plan from the Democrats? The recession has been over for four years and we are still limping along. This has been the worst recovery from a recession in our history!! What about Obama supporting the Federal Reserve printing 85 BILLION dollars each and every month and giving it to Wall Street? How much of that 85 BILLION is benefiting you? Every month they print the value of the dollar goes down, are you getting a raise to compensate for that? Is anyone besides the banks and stock brokers?

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

196ski~ You won't get any answers from forf, he just likes to play partisan shootyball whenever he digs up an article that gives him a soapbox to rant about how evil the Republicans are.

Now, I would say that Cruz probably playing with fire and I hope it doesn't end up burning us all. I think half the reason there has been a slower recovery than what it should have been is because they keep delaying everything and businesses don't know what they can count on. The whole business mandate for the ACA is one factor as is the continual can kicking that they keep pulling with the debt ceiling and the budget. Somebody needs to get these people to sit down and figure out what they are going to do and drop all this incendiary partisan BS for awhile. I don't see it coming from the White House, so that leaves a hole that someone from the other side could fill.

Reply
Reply

A friend of mine learned this week that, starting 1/1/14, her employer is capping all full-time non-management positions at 28-hrs a week specifically to circumvent ACA applicability. Their existing health insurance will end then. Workers were further told they will not be getting wage increases to offset the increased health insurance costs they'll inevitably incur because doing so would supposedly compromise the subsidies they may be eligible for under ACA. This is exactly what Obama said wouldn't happen.

And SW snapped-out the safety nets.

Nothing like getting hosed out of healthcare coverage from all angles, on top of losing 12 wage-earning hours every week. But the good news is her company will be hiring some part-timers to help with the workload ... part of a "corporate restructuring." Yeah! More jobs!

I see a lot of truth in the govt adage, "If you think our problems are bad, wait 'til you see our solutions."

Mazo
Mazo

I would like to know the name of her employer… this is not the Wisconsin that I know(n). Who are these people that put their earnings ahead of their family & community !

Crow Barr
Crow Barr

Mazo---reply made the story up OR it is his company on a downward spiral, with an attitude like that towards the employees.

Reply
Reply

Good try, Crow. Better luck next time.

Reply
Reply

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/04/davids-bridal-employees-moved-to-part-time-due-to-obamacare/

Crow Barr
Crow Barr

I repeat:

reply You made the story up OR it is your company on a downward spiral, with an attitude like that towards the employees.

cmon reply---give us a hint of who your friend (?) is or we can only believe you made that story up!! Answer Mazo with an honest "reply"

Nav
Nav

A day hardly passes by that the Walker administration is not in the news. This has got to be one of the most incompetent administration ever. I don't recall Democratic Governs having so much negative publicity...ever! They tried to unite the State, our Governor continues to divide the state.

happydays
happydays

what state do you live in?

DaTruth
DaTruth

WI, where collective bargaining for state employees is not a right, but freedom from Medicaid expansion is. It's a great state.

bro
bro

DaTruth, Know Da Facts. Wisconsin is a donor state when it comes to federal tax dollars, so when we rejected the federal money we rejected OUR OWN MONEY coming back. How flipping moronic was that?? Then we had a chance to set up our own exchanges but we chose not to. How stupid??? Unfortunately when I say we, it is because the citizens in Wis voted to keep an obvious idiot in the governor's chair. I wonder how many of the 77,000 drank the Walker koolaid.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ DaTruth - you need to learn about labor rights as democracy rights. In countries with fascist or communist rulers there are no collective bargaining labor rights.

@ bro (below) You're entirely right

DaTruth
DaTruth

Uh, Nav - Medicare expansion is on the Obamacare website, as well. Uh, people needing to get Medicare can't. Walker didn't come up with the website. Spin all you want - Obama lied to us to get the law passed, and this is his baby.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ Nav - FACT

ktruth
ktruth

Hope and change stopped working for me. Another Obama mess up. How much more damage can this guy do before he leaves office.

blockhead
blockhead

No mess, just take Obama's free Medicaid expansion. Walker would rather let people die than cross his tea party ideologues.

Remember the Republican debate when the crowd yelled "let 'em die!" ?

happydays
happydays

No, walker is the smart one - feds will pull the funding in a few years and the state will be stuck with the cost. Thank you Walker

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ happydays - FICTION

Provide evidence, any evidence, that Walker's plan is working on the Affordable Care Act and his refusal to set up state exchanges. The truth is that, once again, Walker turned down millions in federal assistance and cost the taxpayers and citizens of our state millions of dollars over the next three years. Why? Because after three years of positive cash flow from the Federal Government, the tap might be turned off. In which case Walker could then turn this matter over to the Federal Government after have saved the state millions.

Walker is anything but "the smart one" unless the payoff from the Koch brothers for his idiotic, destructive poitical posturing results in unlimited campaign backing for a presidential run in 2016.

denbar1948
denbar1948

So what if the funding dries up then is the time to implement and alternative. In the meantime we could have cover 77,000 people.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ blockhead's "Remember the Republican debate when the crowd yelled "let 'em die!" ?

Here's one news report on that exact incident:
Tea Party Debate Audience Cheered Idea of Letting Uninsured Patients Die
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/tea-party-debate-audience-cheered-idea-of-letting-uninsured-patients-die/

Lionhear
Lionhear

No kidding, ktruth!

Lionhear
Lionhear

IMO--the only way ACA is going to work is to get more people paying into it. The 21-40 group, who are the linchpin for making it work, smell it for what it is. All federal, state, county, and municipal government employees need to be mandated to enroll in Obamacare. That's where the money is, and it's the only way the program will work.

smallfry
smallfry

WOW! The ACA is the law and everyone is "enrolled in Obamacare", as you put it!
I can till you didn't read the law! I bet you're one of those who think people will get a Obamacare card, right? Obama didn't explain the law to you, right? And you didn't read the law , right? And now you are mad, right?

Hogzilla
Hogzilla

Did you read the law?

smallfry
smallfry

Walker is an idiot like a lot of posters there!

ktruth
ktruth

some people are further up on the list, right smallfry

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

@ ktruth if "hope and change" don't work for you, how about Walker's "Divide and conquer" and Walker's "lie and deceive", and Walkers "gerrymander and deny voter rights", and Walker's "Turn down federal dollars and kick people off badger care"

How's that working for you?

ktruth
ktruth

much happier with walker than Obama. Except for killing people with drones, he has been a complete failure.

MrNatural
MrNatural

Call all your CongresCritters and demand that the US join the rest of the industrialized world and institute a single payer system.

Wis_taxpayer
Wis_taxpayer

Republicans screech "States rights" they want full control at the State level…. so Walker says to hell with States rights and turns the setting up of our State exchange over to the Federal Government!

Then Walker kicks 77,000 people off of Badgercare….. and tells them, go pull yourselves up by you're boot straps!

Walker to the poor: "I don't care"

Women, children, the elderly, the poor, veterans…. your on your own in Wisconsin…. but don't forget to vote for us!

Lynne4300
Lynne4300

You quoted Walker......."I don't care". Are you sure he said that.

Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

You should know that answer to that, Rebecca Lynne. His office is right down the hallway from yours. Go ask him.

Crow Barr
Crow Barr

Hope Rebecca Lynne gave scatty my "special" wave!

bookman21
bookman21

Actions speak louder than words, Rebecca Lynne.

Lynne4300
Lynne4300

You are a joke, "quoting" statements that only happened in your deluded mind.

noside
noside

The states who set up exchanges aren't seeing the problems of those like Wisconsin that didn't. Rejecting the Medicaid money borders on criminal neglect.

blockhead
blockhead

It's certainly immoral IMO.

happydays
happydays

I love how everything is Bush's fault, Walkers' fault -but never obama's. Just wait till all the companies tell their employees to go on it because the cost has become so high - then crap will really hit the fan. It's hard to watch your idol fall

blockhead
blockhead

THIS is Walker's fault. Stick to the issue.

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Fact or Fiction
Fact or Fiction

Yeah - "nothing" is working. Especially since the Republicans shut down the federal goverment for two weeks in a failed attempt to stop the Affordable Care Act. Not like the Republican government shut down caused and delays with launching the Affordable Care Act's implementation. Not to mention costing our econonomy at least $24 BILLION dollars.

Obamacare ‘horror’ story turns out to be Obamacare success story
http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/11/obamacare-horror-story-turns-out-to-be-obamacare-success-story.html

Comment deleted.
196ski
196ski

Fact or Fiction (below)

So the Democrats shut down the government because they refused to delay the individual mandate will go ahead and delay the individual mandate after all. Irony.

Comment deleted.
toobad
toobad

Or you can pray to your god, 0bama

philfan05
philfan05

People are having trouble signing up for Obamacare? No way!
I heard that at least 6 people in the US have signed up already, maybe they can help these people get signed up.

Harvey
Harvey

You heard wrong (or got your "facts" confused). The 6 are a REPUBLICAN reference (with no proof to back it up) who signed up via the gov. web site. Kentucky, Virginia, New York, California have signed up thousands.

Other that that your post was very informative.

DaTruth
DaTruth

Obama messes up 20% of our economy, puts people's lives at risk, and it's Walker's fault? This story has to be a lie, as well. If the BadgerCare customers liked BadgerCare, they get to keep BadgerCare. Nice try @ spin, Obama worshipers - it's his fault.

blockhead
blockhead

Hope you love your tax dollars paying 10 times as much when these folks end up in the emergency room.

MrNatural
MrNatural

So 77,000 go without healthcare in order to further the political career of Walker.
This is the definition of a sociopath.

Queen123
Queen123

He's our GOVERNOR! Hello? Anybody home? This is not only his problem, but our problem as well. We end up paying for those using the ER for primary care.

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

if the exchange doesn't work - lots of people will be without because of the federal shortcoming...regardless if they were on medicaid before. This is not Walker's fault.

Why not ask health care companies if they will just treat people for free?

lyla
lyla

Why in the H**l are they sending this letter wanting a contingency plan to the Walker administration. The letter should be going to the Obama administration asking for answers. There are also many people in this state that pay for their insurance through the HERSP program and now have no where to go as well. These are the people that are considered uninsurable because of high risk or age. What are these people to do? Why is the Obama administration not coming up with a plan to help these people get insurance through the exchange?.

MrNatural
MrNatural

The Obama administration gave them the answer two years ago: expand Medicare. Il Duce rejected it. Not it's on him.

College Didn't Take
College Didn't Take

Well, if I can't get these people to vote for me, perhaps I can make it difficult for them to survive until election day 2014.

B-Man
B-Man

And why is this Walkers problem?

FactsOrFiction
FactsOrFiction

Are you an idiot or just acting like one for the forums?

PapaLorax
PapaLorax

so now Walker is responsible for the implementation of all federal programs too?

denbar1948
denbar1948

Badger Care is what the article is about. That is a State program. Walker is the one who declined Federal money.

Lorem Ipsum
Lorem Ipsum

No,, but he bears some responsibility for obstructing them.

denbar1948
denbar1948

Perhaps because he is the Governor.